74 School Shootings in 18 Months
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They have already just ousted two solid conservatives for Speaker of the House and look to be getting one of their own to be second in line for President....
Don't know where any legislation involving gun control can even be considered, let alone be put up for a vote. Hillary isn't going to touch it. There would be apoplectic rage if Obama actually does anything that would be relatively ineffective anyways.......
Oh... Sheriff Hanlin of Douglas County said he would not enforce any legislation that curtailed gun ownership or increased regulation and has publicly suggested that Sandy Hook and 9/11 were hoaxes put on by the government to stoke calls for gun control.
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holy fuck, you're all fucked.
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I generally DO agree with Michael Moore, but I think he's wrong on this one. NOTHING will change the lust for guns in America.
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I thought this was an excellent account, harrowing......
A survivor’s life
Another mass shooting was over. The country had moved on. But inside one house in Oregon, a family was discovering the unending extent of a wound.
ROSEBURG, Ore. — She approached her daughter just as the doctors and psychologists had suggested: calmly, deliberately, stepping on the carpet so the floorboards didn’t squeak, picking her way around the wheelchair, the walker, the sagging balloons and wilted flowers. She held her arms out in front where her daughter could see them. She announced her arrival so as not to surprise her. “It’s just me, your mom,” she said, and then she reached out to place a reassuring hand on her daughter’s back, making sure to touch below the bullet wound and away from the incision.
“I was thinking, if you’re ready for it, maybe I’d make a quick run to the store,” said Bonnie Schaan, 52.
“Wait. For how long?” asked Cheyeanne Fitzgerald, 16.
“Not long. Are you ready to be alone? I’m not sure.”
It had been 20 days since the last time Bonnie left Cheyeanne by herself — 20 days since she was shot along with 15 others in a classroom at Umpqua Community College. Nine people were killed that day, adding to the hundreds of Americans who have died in mass shootings in recent years. And seven people were wounded but didn’t die, joining the ever-expanding ranks of mass-shooting survivors. There are thousands of them. Fifty-eight gunshot survivors at the movie theater in Aurora, Colo. Three at the Washington Navy Yard. One at a church in Charleston, S.C. Nine in Colorado Springs. Twenty-one in San Bernardino, Calif. And seven more in Roseburg, Ore., where Cheyeanne had been sent home from the hospital to a flea-infested rental with reinforced locks and curtains darkening the living room.
A doctor had given her a booklet called “Creating a Safe Space to Recover,” and Bonnie had taken a break from waitressing to become a full-time caregiver. She had turned a $5 garage-sale recliner into Cheyeanne’s hospital bed and posted a sign on their front door: “No loud noises! Please do NOT knock.” She had set her alarm for every four hours to bring Cheyeanne her medicines and anything else that might make her feel safe again. Here came more Percocet to numb the pain and anti-anxieties to ease her panic attacks. Here came her purple blanket, her new puppy and her condolence letter from President Obama. Here came the old Little League baseball bats she wanted nearby for protection and the rifle she had used to kill her first deer.
“I’m talking about five minutes,” Bonnie said. “We need juice and ice.”
“Fine. Go,” Cheyeanne said.
She had been the youngest one shot on just her fourth day of college, and she was also one of the survivors in the worst shape: Lung punctured. Kidney pierced. Ribs cracked. Nerves compressed. Stomach stapled. Abdominals torn. She couldn’t yet sleep flat in bed, or walk unassisted, or do much of anything beyond lie in the recliner on her left side. “Very lucky, considering,” was what she had been told by one trauma medic, who specialized in treating soldiers after combat. But Cheyeanne had signed up for Writing 115, not a war, and the idea of luck hadn’t occurred to her yet..............
continued...very long, but powerful, article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/nation ... vors-life/
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I did lol at a couple of these. Especially at the guy who looks down the barrel of his gun.
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Just FYI Bandit, at least one of those is fake. Guns don't go off when they hit the ground. (And notice, no recoil...)
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Which is why it is from 'Spam' TV...Hype wrote:Just FYI Bandit, at least one of those is fake. Guns don't go off when they hit the ground. (And notice, no recoil...)
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Here's a fucking idea: How about the people of the USA stand up and make the NRA responsible for controlling (read that as "stopping") the gun deaths in the USA?
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"This country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem"
i have some guns
i don't shoot anyone
i have some guns
i don't shoot anyone
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Does that country have more of a mental health problem per capita than any other developed country?Ganondorf wrote:"This country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem"
i have some guns
i don't shoot anyone
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yesnausearockpig wrote:Does that country have more of a mental health problem per capita than any other developed country?Ganondorf wrote:"This country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem"
i have some guns
i don't shoot anyone
"Here's a fucking idea: How about the people of the USA stand up and make the NRA responsible for controlling (read that as "stopping") the gun deaths in the USA?"
the people of the US should make the NRA responsible for stopping the gun deaths? what?
what grade are you in?
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Jesus. I didn't think it was too hard a concept to grasp. Was I too subtle? Let me help you out.
The idea behind that broad and simplistic comment was to comment that it's clear that nobody in the USA is taking any action against, or responsibility at all for, the gun violence. Nor is anyone seemingly able to halt the violence you're all getting used to.
So, how about the body that is pro-gun be put in charge of halting the violence? Surely there are some big brains in the NRA that can help combat gun violence with say, some rules, enforcement of said rules, cleaning the streets of illegal guns, organizing regular mental health checks for gun owners ( ooh imagine the revenue generated from that?!?!?) ?
What is so wrong about that idea? Is it because if the NRA was held to task, with the possibility of things not going its way should it fail to curb violence that its members would be required to concede and hand back weapons?
Or maybe it's just OK to want & to have the guns* but managing them is "someone else's responsibility"?
BTW if as you say, the USA is rife with mental illness, and if it's a problem that's out of control, why on Bob's Green Earth would anyone not want to lock down who has access to guns?
*why do you all need them? I know it's in your constitution to bear arms against a govt that turns on its people( or whatever the wording is) but a) surely that's not a thing anymore and b) how would you all actually rise up in a coordinated manner, across the country to take down your govt? Come on, as if... But that's another bunch of questions that nobody can clear up for me)
Also, I'm five, and for my next birthday I want an Optimus Prime!
The idea behind that broad and simplistic comment was to comment that it's clear that nobody in the USA is taking any action against, or responsibility at all for, the gun violence. Nor is anyone seemingly able to halt the violence you're all getting used to.
So, how about the body that is pro-gun be put in charge of halting the violence? Surely there are some big brains in the NRA that can help combat gun violence with say, some rules, enforcement of said rules, cleaning the streets of illegal guns, organizing regular mental health checks for gun owners ( ooh imagine the revenue generated from that?!?!?) ?
What is so wrong about that idea? Is it because if the NRA was held to task, with the possibility of things not going its way should it fail to curb violence that its members would be required to concede and hand back weapons?
Or maybe it's just OK to want & to have the guns* but managing them is "someone else's responsibility"?
BTW if as you say, the USA is rife with mental illness, and if it's a problem that's out of control, why on Bob's Green Earth would anyone not want to lock down who has access to guns?
*why do you all need them? I know it's in your constitution to bear arms against a govt that turns on its people( or whatever the wording is) but a) surely that's not a thing anymore and b) how would you all actually rise up in a coordinated manner, across the country to take down your govt? Come on, as if... But that's another bunch of questions that nobody can clear up for me)
Also, I'm five, and for my next birthday I want an Optimus Prime!
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Theres a lot of people out there like nausaea who have a deep seeded hatred for America.
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I mean thats basically the point hes trying to make.
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I don't hate the USA, I just don't get it - fundamentally I mean.clickie wrote:Theres a lot of people out there like nausaea who have a deep seeded hatred for America.
No it's not.clickie wrote:I mean thats basically the point hes trying to make.
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If we fix our gun problem you'll still find something else to complain about.
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yeah sure.. whatever. Still all I see is blah blah blah, no ideas or fixes. Yes I get it's a very complex issue....
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You ever been to the usa?
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It should be on your bucket list.
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it is, but my wife has a condition where long haul flights are out so it's likely never going to happen. Not sure I could stand being on a cruise ship for 25 days..... or afford to either......
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Fuck that, i Couldn't tolerate being on a cruise ship that long either. I'm seasick just thinking about it.
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that's fifty days travel time..... waayyyy more than i get off per year..
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OH LOLz.... If you can get thru the laughs.... holy fuck this is funny... go on, watch it and listen, really listen to his points... gold.....