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Re: The Cult

#51 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:14 pm

NYRexall wrote:
Pandemonium wrote: Ian's a weird guy. Some of the stuff he's said in interviews over the years just floors me. The arguments and comments he made when he was doing The Doors thing were jaw-droppingly stupid.
Do tell..
This is the only article I still have bookmarked but there's a lot more from the time he was fronting The Doors:

http://forum.johndensmore.com/index.php?showtopic=4068

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Re: The Cult

#52 Post by NYRexall » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:39 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
This is the only article I still have bookmarked but there's a lot more from the time he was fronting The Doors:

http://forum.johndensmore.com/index.php?showtopic=4068
Dude, that interview is great. Ian makes for great copy. What a dick! :lol:

Did he honestly believe that Trent Reznor or Dave Grohl or Eddie Vedder would stoop to performing for some Doors-rehash? Didn't the guy from that 90s frat-rock band 'Fuel' also sing for the Doors for awhile?

Dude's sense of rockstar self-importance is legendary. He makes it sound like that Doors gig was something to be proud of. I remember being embarrassed for him when I heard the news :noclue:

Ian, Perry, Danzig and Billy Corgan should do a "Monster Egos of Rock" festival sometime. You wouldn't be able to fit them all in the same venue, let alone the same room.

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Re: The Cult

#53 Post by Pandemonium » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:20 pm

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Re: The Cult

#54 Post by NYRexall » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:12 am

Did that CD I mailed to you get there yet?

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Re: The Cult

#55 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:54 am

NYRexall wrote:Did that CD I mailed to you get there yet?
Not yet. Stuff from Japan not sent via EMS usually takes about 2 weeks.

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Re: The Cult

#56 Post by NYRexall » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:29 pm

Ha, figures.

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Re: The Cult

#57 Post by Tyler Durden » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:55 pm

NYRexall wrote:
Ian, Perry, Danzig and Billy Corgan should do a "Monster Egos of Rock" festival sometime. You wouldn't be able to fit them all in the same venue, let alone the same room.
I think Danzig is an asshole...but his ego is pretty justified, as far as I'm concerned. His work from from 1977 to 1994 is absolutely perfect; there's really nothing to scoff at. It wasn't until Blackacidevil that the cracks started to show...but that was after about 10 albums of some of the greatest punk, death rock, and metal ever made. His work has been patchy ever since...but his last album (Deth Red Sabaoth) is the best since 4P. The "Lost Tracks" album also has some amazing gems. I give Glenn credit...he has always kept his word (with regard to releases), always did things his way (for better or worse), and never sold out to any great degree; I think he's kept it pretty real.

Billy's made some crap; namely, Zeitgeist and some of his solo album...but overall, I think he's a musical genius, so his ego is warranted. He's the kind of guy who writes numerous songs every single day (like Neil Young).

Ian and Perry are way past their prime douches who collaborated with the right people at the right time.

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Re: The Cult

#58 Post by NYRexall » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:53 pm

Perry and Ian should do an Egopolooza festival sometime. You wouldn't be able to fit both of them in the same venue, let alone fill it with people interested.

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Re: The Cult

#59 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:22 pm

NYRexall wrote:Perry and Ian should do an Egopolooza festival sometime. You wouldn't be able to fit both of them in the same venue, let alone fill it with people interested.
You know Ian thinks Perry stole the whole (Lollapalooza) touring festival idea away from him after Ian organized the Gathering Of The Tribes thing in 1990 (which was a pretty decent lineup - The Cramps and Iggy Pop at the same show?!?).

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Re: The Cult

#60 Post by NYRexall » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:55 am

Ian's alright. His band can still draw a respectable crowd, at least.

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Re: The Cult

#61 Post by kv » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:55 am

Pandemonium wrote:
NYRexall wrote:Perry and Ian should do an Egopolooza festival sometime. You wouldn't be able to fit both of them in the same venue, let alone fill it with people interested.
You know Ian thinks Perry stole the whole (Lollapalooza) touring festival idea away from him after Ian organized the Gathering Of The Tribes thing in 1990 (which was a pretty decent lineup - The Cramps and Iggy Pop at the same show?!?).
mainly because perry prob did

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Re: The Cult

#62 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:32 am

Pretty stoked I managed to score a GA Pit ticket last night when Ticketmaster released a few remaining tickets for the upcoming LA Wiltern show. Plus, they added The Icarus Line as an opening band along with White Hills (never heard of 'em) so I'm in.

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Re: The Cult

#63 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:26 pm

Pandemonium wrote:Pretty stoked I managed to score a GA Pit ticket last night when Ticketmaster released a few remaining tickets for the upcoming LA Wiltern show. Plus, they added The Icarus Line as an opening band along with White Hills (never heard of 'em) so I'm in.
Aww fuck, I just got an e-mail from Ticketbastard that Icarus Line is out of the lineup.

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Re: The Cult

#64 Post by Pandemonium » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:33 am

Saw The Cult tonight at The Wiltern in LA. Much better than last year's Hollywood Palladium show.

I had landed a GA pit ticket in the Ticketmaster release a couple weeks ago and got to the show about 15 minutes before opening band White Hills came on. The pit was pretty sparse and I could go right up to the rail just off to the side and catch their set. White Hills, a three piece, started off really promising, a decent mix of Led Zeppelin and Sonic Youth. The blond on bass was really easy on the eyes. But by about the 4th song, their long, mostly instrumental stoner rock started to wear thin and a few songs later, I was off to the bar.

The Cult came on about 9:45 and played the "Electric" album straight through, only subbing the great B-side cut "Zap City" in place of the (terrible) cover of "Born To Be Wild" which was on the album. They took about a 10 minute break while a dumb video clip played on the projection screen (it included clips from "Conan The Barbarian"...wtf?!?). They came back and played a respectable 2nd set and encore which as far as I know, was the standard set they've been playing this tour.

Good points - a lot of deeper cuts from the Electric album that I've never heard live before, played fairly faithfully. Also, songs that get regular air time most tours like Nirvana, The Phoenix, Rise and Spiritwalker sounded great. The big "hits" like Love Removal Machine and She Sells Sanctuary not played as encore closers as usual is a nice twist although closing with "Sun King" wasn't a perfect alternative.

The band, especially Billy Duffy was solid. No Billy vs guitar tech issues tonight and he seemed pretty happy the entire show. The only song I think really lost the audience was "Embers." The new 2nd guitarist has a pretty easy job from a musicians' standpoint, as anyone who knows The Cult's catalog can attest. I will say he looked uncomfortably like a well dressed Michael Douglas. Ian Astbury sang significantly better than last year's show although he had his downside as mentioned below. Late in the set, Ian tossed a tambourine right to an older guy dead center in the pit who was clearly having a great time rocking out and putting most of the younger fucks to shame.

Bad Points - Mostly Ian's more or less disconnected stage presence. Through the Electric set, he barely addressed the audience and when he did, it was often in a condescending manner. Frankly, he looked bored at times and really didn't seemed fully engaged until the last half dozen songs. Late in the show, he began whining about the audience, often telling them they "need to work, work for it," I guess because the place wasn't going nuts after every song. For the most part, the crowd was pretty into it, especially during much of the 2nd set and encore. It's getting old hearing Astbury bitch about crowd participation when he's the guy onstage who should be getting the (paying) audience into the show.

Setlist:

Wild Flower
Peace Dog
Lil' Devil
Aphrodisiac Jacket
Electric Ocean
Bad Fun
King Contrary Man
Love Removal Machine
Zap City
Outlaw
Memphis Hip Shake
*break*
Rain
Honey From a Knife
Sweet Soul Sister
Lucifer
Embers
The Phoenix
Rise
She Sells Sanctuary
Encore:
Spiritwalker
Nirvana
Sun King

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Re: The Cult

#65 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:57 pm

This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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Re: The Cult

#66 Post by blackcoffee » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:46 pm

Pandemonium wrote:This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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I'm excited to see The Cult again. I passed on Echo, The Jesus and Mary Chain, and Jane's this year, but I'm down for the Cult.

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Re: The Cult

#67 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:49 am

blackcoffee wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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I'm excited to see The Cult again. I passed on Echo, The Jesus and Mary Chain, and Jane's this year, but I'm down for the Cult.
They've changed out their rhythm guitarist and bass player recently and apparently are going for a more 60's Doors style keyboard sound on their next album due at the end of the year.

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Re: The Cult

#68 Post by blackcoffee » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:10 am

Pandemonium wrote:
blackcoffee wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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I'm excited to see The Cult again. I passed on Echo, The Jesus and Mary Chain, and Jane's this year, but I'm down for the Cult.
They've changed out their rhythm guitarist and bass player recently and apparently are going for a more 60's Doors style keyboard sound on their next album due at the end of the year.
I'd read that they changed their rhythm guitarist and bass player, which seems counter intuitive as they'd been a real band since Born Into This. Do you think adding the keyboard precipitated the change? Bill defended the keyboard by suggesting they'd toured with a keyboardist extensively in the past.

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Re: The Cult

#69 Post by Artemis » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:51 pm

New song from new album ( out on Feb 5)...

I wish The Cult would come out my way;it's been a long time. Maybe in the new year...



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Re: The Cult

#70 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:39 pm

Artemis wrote:New song from new album ( out on Feb 5)...

I wish The Cult would come out my way;it's been a long time. Maybe in the new year...


Not bad, but the obvious drum loop gets old real quick. I hope they throw in some deep cuts to round out the inevitable burnout tunes they play every show when I see them in a couple weeks at The Palladium.

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Re: The Cult

#71 Post by creep » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:51 pm

Artemis wrote:New song from new album ( out on Feb 5)...

I wish The Cult would come out my way;it's been a long time. Maybe in the new year...


that's ok. the mix is weird though. the vocals are too low.

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Re: The Cult

#72 Post by kv » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:59 am



what drum loop made me think of

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Re: The Cult

#73 Post by Hype » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:21 am

kv wrote:

what drum loop made me think of
A little, but it's slower and more tribal. Like Song Yet to Be Sung.


They're all in 4/5 though, I think? (I'm not great at music theory, usually I try to guess by feel...)

It also kinda sounds like:



And:


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Re: The Cult

#74 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:01 pm

BTW, Chris Cheney was the bass player on the new album.

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Re: The Cult

#75 Post by Hype » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:12 pm

They're all in 4/5 though, I think? (I'm not great at music theory, usually I try to guess by feel...)
I ... don't remember writing this... but I'm pretty sure I meant 5/4 or 5/8... or... some other actual time signature...

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