New Dave Jerden Interview - Talks Jane's

[someguy]

If, on the other hand, Jane's comes back like the Chilli's did when Fru rejoined, and they go on to be even more successful than first time around, everyone points to the change, the one thing that's different from the Strays era: Eric. The story becomes that Perry (and Dave) can't do it without Eric.... and furthermore it answers for everyone, that original question about where the greatness of Jane's came from: it was Eric.

I had this same thought when Eric rejoined, and optimistically saw some parallels to frusciante coming back. Really thought all those misfires would be swept under the rug with new material.

Also didn't Dave write a bunch of ritual?

[guysmiley]

I don't understand why anyone would care about the slim differences between SP and PC. Both sucked almost equally.

[intertwoven]

I hate to defend Perry these days, but ignoring the album cover and the uneven live shows, Ultra Payloaded had a few decent songs on it. Gun to my head I couldn't hum a single Panic Channel song for you. I'm sure as a band they were more organic, with more integrity and all that, but they couldn't put together any decent songs, sadly.

[Pillar Girl]

great read by everyone, really have enjoyed everyone's perceptions and ideas about the creative lineage,
I would imagine if getting the real information from the horses mouth, mainly the 4 members of Jane's 1.0
would be enough, but I would also gather their stories would be different, due to ego and whatever past drug
use that has altered their memories.

We probably will never know the real truth, none of us were there, and the rest is just reflection and basis
of past gigs with lineups, and snippets of quotes from managers, producers and girlfriends. This is why I was hoping
when Sonny interviewed Eric all those years back, he would also venture into the very early days of their writing
process, with who was credited for what material. a song by song basis, as you have to view each work of art just
as we would a painting or sculpture on its own merit, when and where it was conceived.

For me personally, Eric's bass line's still resonate as the backbone of everything Jane's Addiction was ever to be,
and it did resonate with millions of other fans as well, and maybe, just maybe someday, we'll get the real truth on
the song writing process of who did what, but if not, I'm fine with that as well, the music is still vibrant and rocking.

[kv]

wow how have you been? haven't seen you post in ages

[Pillar Girl]

wow how have you been? haven't seen you post in ages

life, college, relationships have massed my time, tho I check in here every month or so to see the news of JA,
glad to see old faces are still around.

- have a rocking summer all

[kv]

cheers

[Xizen47]

They were more successful than Satellite Party by far.

2,000 more albums sold and 8 less cancelled shows = by far?

Reminds of when Courtney Love says that Hole was "bigger" than Nirvana in the beginning... Yeah Courtney, cause you had sold 50 albums when Nirvana was at 10

[JOEinPHX]

They were more successful than Satellite Party by far.

2,000 more albums sold and 8 less cancelled shows = by far?

Reminds of when Courtney Love says that Hole was "bigger" than Nirvana in the beginning... Yeah Courtney, cause you had sold 50 albums when Nirvana was at 10

Again, TPC never once resorted to milking Jane's legacy to get attention.

They never had to write "Dave Navarro's Panic Channel" on their record.

They never went to radio stations with free tickets to give away for their show that evening because otherwise no one would have been there. Perry did a whole radio station junket for SP because no one cared.

Satellite Party was Perry's desperate attempt to prove he was still relevant. And it turned out he wasn't.

TPC just played music because they enjoyed playing music. Everything about it was more genuine. So yeah, their attempts to play music for music's sake was far more successful than Perry's attempt to milk his own name and the Jane's Addiction legacy to make people care about his new band.

[Hokahey]

TPC just played music because they enjoyed playing music. Everything about it was more genuine. So yeah, their attempts to play music for music's sake was far more successful than Perry's attempt to milk his own name and the Jane's Addiction legacy to make people care about his new band.

Sorry, but this is bullshit. TPC wanted to be a major rock band. Their aspirations were to be mega stars and they purposefully created radio friendly shlock and hired a singer because they liked his image. NOTHING about what they were doing was genuine. I talked to a lot of people close to them leading up to that record, and they were all about being mega stars, which they knew they could do with a more "everyman" type singer. That entire band, from their shitty logo to their shitty singer was contrived.

SP was shit, but Perry was legitimately trying to make art, not be an arena rock band. His art sucked, and ge got desperate when it failed, but don't get confused about who was trying to do what.

[JOEinPHX]

Made by SP's frontman in Photoshop

genuine art

Made by TPC's frontman who happens to be a professional graphic and media designer:

NOT ART

Got it.

[JOEinPHX]

You guys, seriously, stop trying to make Perry Farrell happen. It's never going to happen.

[intertwoven]

This is like a couple of middle schoolers fighting over whose farts smell the best.

[Noonesshocking]

On the subject of Panic Channel, this song is so utterly confusing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG0y_dObBqw

It sounds like THE MOST generic early aughts VH1 top twenty tune "modern rock" tune... but with a shoegazy vaguely cure-y guitar line. Too weird.

[JOEinPHX]

Agreed.

Why Cry was terrible.

Go On was way better and unfortunately got relegated to be a Bside.

[Hokahey]

Made by SP's frontman in Photoshop

genuine art

Made by TPC's frontman who happens to be a professional graphic and media designer:

NOT ART

Got it.

You are confused. Art can be genuine and bad. The funny thing is, you made my point even clearer.

Perry's art was bad, but he was putting his heart in to it. TPC and their ridiculous logo was made by a professional graphic designer. He made something that would sell. Something kids would buy on tshirts

You couldn't be more wrong about what you thought that band was up to. I can say this with 100% confidence.

[Hype]

The Panic Channel symbol is Dave's head.

[farrellgirl99]

TPC was the worst thing ever. They were embarrassingly poser-ish and the music was so generically bland. I was probably their target audience when they came out because I was a 14 year old girl, but even then I could see/hear how awful they were. I mean Steve Isaacs? Really? Not sure how anyone can defend TPC. They were made for Hot Topic.

Satellite Party wasn't good either, but those early snippets of songs like Milky Ave had potential and were way more interesting than anything TPC did.

But overall, Interwoven is right.

[creep]

I was probably their target audience when they came out because I was a 14 year old girl

holy shit.....i had no idea that the panic channel was formed eleven years ago. just seems like yesterday.

i do miss the panic circles.

[crater]

[creep]

[JOEinPHX]

You guys are all high. Just like back in 2005.

No amount of revisionist history can change the fact that SP was a flop that no one showed up for, and TPC actually had fans (who took the time to get there early to draw on the sidewalks to welcome the band, none the less).

I think it's strange that a bunch of people who sit around talking about which live version of Pigs in Zen had the best rant by Perry and the best intro/outro, all inspected on shitty bootlegs recorded on tape recorders 30 years ago, can't possibly grasp the dedicated fandom that TPC had, and has.

TPC could get back together for a reunion show next week and people would be there. People ask Dave and Steve about it all the time.

Can you say the same about Satellite Party?

[farrellgirl99]

But the popularity of a band doesn't correlate to artistic merit. I mean that should be obvious. Tons of terrible bands could have a reunion tour and people would go. I'm sure Good Charlotte could have a packed theater tour. TPC had fans because they pandered to the lowest common denominator.

[JOEinPHX]

4 guys making music in their garage has more artistic merit that Perry Farrell making music on his laptop, getting a bunch of hired guns to put music to it, then completely scrapping the entire album to play hits from his other bands live.

Perry didn't even think his own music was good enough to play at his own shows.

[kv]

This is 67 fighting for his Todd Newman leg tattoo click that he was a core part of lets not forget he was a mod on the site...it was his moment in the sun...the time of his life