Re: First World Problem of the Day
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:29 pm
lame be better dude drink those liquidsJasper wrote:So. Fucking. Sick.
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lame be better dude drink those liquidsJasper wrote:So. Fucking. Sick.
Incapacitated for a good 30 hours so far.
Jasper wrote:So. Fucking. Sick.
Incapacitated for a good 30 hours so far.
but the opportunity to sleep with coeds far outweigh the negatives.Adurentibus Spina wrote:The worst part about being any kind of teacher is the infinite ways in which the kids let you down in mind-numbingly stupid pseudo-clever tricky ways, and the way the administration of educational institutions sets things up to force educators to simultaneously try to help the institution appear as if it takes academic dishonesty, talent, ability, learning, etc., seriously, when all that really matters is recruitment, retainment, and getting people to pay as much money as possible. It's a really fucked up kind of stress. It obviously has analogues in other occupations, but it's so fucked up for it to occur in education... and that no one seems capable of doing anything about it.
how many marijuana cigarettes have you been smoking? You're talking crack again...creep wrote:but the opportunity to sleep with coeds far outweigh the negatives.Adurentibus Spina wrote:The worst part about being any kind of teacher is the infinite ways in which the kids let you down in mind-numbingly stupid pseudo-clever tricky ways, and the way the administration of educational institutions sets things up to force educators to simultaneously try to help the institution appear as if it takes academic dishonesty, talent, ability, learning, etc., seriously, when all that really matters is recruitment, retainment, and getting people to pay as much money as possible. It's a really fucked up kind of stress. It obviously has analogues in other occupations, but it's so fucked up for it to occur in education... and that no one seems capable of doing anything about it.
i always wondered if a professor could be fired for that because it happens all of the time in movies. even ross on friends was sleeping with a student i think. it seems to ba accepted.
i updated my facebook status once in my life. it was in 2010.nausearockpig wrote:"I can't update my Facebook cos my iPhone isn't connecting to the 4G network...."
Exactly why they need to sleep with their profs to get good grades... cos they're dumb losers...SR wrote:Proffs banging students are losers
i doubt it's to get good grades. it's sort of a power thing. have you ever worked with females and are in some sort of management type position? it happens all of the time and earlier in my career i witnessed it quite a bit.nausearockpig wrote:Exactly why they need to sleep with their profs to get good grades... cos they're dumb losers...SR wrote:Proffs banging students are losers
I'm a professor and I have been shocked at how often this does happen. Although, the cases I've heard of usually involve older students, not freshmen.
From what I've seen, it happens much more in departments where students and professors have to spend a lot of time together. For example, people spend a lot of time on field trips and in labs in my department, and things happen on the trips or when people are working together alone in labs. Many of the professors are married to former grad students! But in departments like English, where professors and students work alone more, I think this kind of thing happens less often.
It happens much less often nowadays than it used to, because many universities have strict policies against it. If I were you, I would NEVER flirt with a professor because he will probably worry that you will sue him for sexual harassment and react VERY badly towards you. The fallout could really hurt your future career and his. Also, people will not respect you if they find out about it. Any professor who actually WOULD get into any kind of relationship with a student these days is taking a huge risk. The professors I know of still do this sort of thing are always pretty weird and immature, and not the kind of people you should get involved with.
Students often think because of movies that professors would love to have sex with a hot student. But the professors I know really don't spend a lot of time thinking about their students--except for the few I mentioned above who don't have great judgment. College students are very young. Most professors are more interested in people who have graduated. A lot of the student - professor relationships I know of started because the professor liked having someone to talk to about his work, not because of the "hot student" stereotype. I have seen a lot of students embarrass themselves because they think all professors want a hot college student. So don't flirt with your professors!
So, it happens... But much less than it did. And the consequences are so severe for any professor caught in a relationship with a student (or vice versa) that a professor would have to be crazy to take the risk. Good luck at university.
You'd have to be a fucking lunatic to root a student and think that it won't come back to haunt you...creep wrote:i doubt it's to get good grades. it's sort of a power thing. have you ever worked with females and are in some sort of management type position? it happens all of the time and earlier in my career i witnessed it quite a bit.nausearockpig wrote:Exactly why they need to sleep with their profs to get good grades... cos they're dumb losers...SR wrote:Proffs banging students are losers
obviously i assume most universities have policies against it but i wonder if professors are actually fired for it. i google searched it:
I'm a professor and I have been shocked at how often this does happen. Although, the cases I've heard of usually involve older students, not freshmen.
From what I've seen, it happens much more in departments where students and professors have to spend a lot of time together. For example, people spend a lot of time on field trips and in labs in my department, and things happen on the trips or when people are working together alone in labs. Many of the professors are married to former grad students! But in departments like English, where professors and students work alone more, I think this kind of thing happens less often.
It happens much less often nowadays than it used to, because many universities have strict policies against it. If I were you, I would NEVER flirt with a professor because he will probably worry that you will sue him for sexual harassment and react VERY badly towards you. The fallout could really hurt your future career and his. Also, people will not respect you if they find out about it. Any professor who actually WOULD get into any kind of relationship with a student these days is taking a huge risk. The professors I know of still do this sort of thing are always pretty weird and immature, and not the kind of people you should get involved with.
Students often think because of movies that professors would love to have sex with a hot student. But the professors I know really don't spend a lot of time thinking about their students--except for the few I mentioned above who don't have great judgment. College students are very young. Most professors are more interested in people who have graduated. A lot of the student - professor relationships I know of started because the professor liked having someone to talk to about his work, not because of the "hot student" stereotype. I have seen a lot of students embarrass themselves because they think all professors want a hot college student. So don't flirt with your professors!
So, it happens... But much less than it did. And the consequences are so severe for any professor caught in a relationship with a student (or vice versa) that a professor would have to be crazy to take the risk. Good luck at university.
I have not known ONE university professor (aside from my friend) who has not shagged a student. All of my teachers when I studied music did it, and all my acquaintances who teach have done it. And in senior year of high school, a teacher fucked one of my classmates. She loved it. Oh, and when I taught drums, my only female student came on to me quite openly... I didn't give in and that was the last class I gave her. When I taught bass though, I ended up in a long term relationship with my only female student.creep wrote:but the opportunity to sleep with coeds far outweigh the negatives.Adurentibus Spina wrote:The worst part about being any kind of teacher is the infinite ways in which the kids let you down in mind-numbingly stupid pseudo-clever tricky ways, and the way the administration of educational institutions sets things up to force educators to simultaneously try to help the institution appear as if it takes academic dishonesty, talent, ability, learning, etc., seriously, when all that really matters is recruitment, retainment, and getting people to pay as much money as possible. It's a really fucked up kind of stress. It obviously has analogues in other occupations, but it's so fucked up for it to occur in education... and that no one seems capable of doing anything about it.
i always wondered if a professor could be fired for that because it happens all of the time in movies. even ross on friends was sleeping with a student i think. it seems to ba accepted.
I don't know why it isn't obvious that no one should sleep with their subordinates/superiors in any kind of professional setting... not because it *couldn't* work out, but because the risks are enormous and the potential payoff is stupid given how simple it would be to get what you want eventually anyway.Essence_Smith wrote:A friend of mine (female) was recently involved in a scandal where she slept with a student...the more effed up thing was she taught high school and the kid was 16-17 at the time...she ended up getting 10 years probation, is some kinda low level sex offender and lost her teachers license...her husband has also left her...she's completely done I think...
I agree, I think that's the reason I had problems with my last supervisor. He kept mentioning to me why I didn't like him. And yesterday someone asked me if he had a thing for me, cause I just found out about something really terrible, but I'm glad I got safely out of the whole thing.Adurentibus Spina wrote:Yeah. Frankly the sheer volume of ignorance, stupidity, and the stark age-intelligence gap combination are enough to make most undergrads complete non-entities for nearly all profs. Grad students are another matter altogether... but that's also a much more dangerous game, depending on how it's being played. (The former-student/prof thing seems to be permissible, and only moderately frowned upon, especially if there's no evidence of impropriety/deceit...)
Similarly, I also don't understand grad students who treat their supervisors like close friends. I treat my supervisor like any other boss, and we're both hetero males, but it just seems like anything but professionalism would be stupid. Friendship can happen later when I have tenure and don't need to maintain a certain reputation to ensure a solid reference letter anymore.
Corollary: I don't understand why employees would ever assume they're friends with their bosses (and vice versa). I think that was a topic of discussion here a few years ago, and I still stand by it... it can work out okay in some cases by luck, but it's just not a good bet.