First World Problem of the Day

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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby kv » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:29 pm

Jasper wrote:So. Fucking. Sick. :jasper:

Incapacitated for a good 30 hours so far.

lame be better dude drink those liquids
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby Artemis » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:10 pm

Jasper wrote:So. Fucking. Sick. :jasper:

Incapacitated for a good 30 hours so far.





On the bright side, you can wear your PJs all day and watch talk shows. :pat:
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby nausearockpig » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:51 pm

when I log into ANR via an email on my iPhone, this crazy stuff has been popping up at the bottom of the screen....

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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby Hype » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:29 pm

I get paid to mark papers. I hate it and have a hard time getting through the stack every time. Yet it's probably one of the best jobs a person could have. Boss isn't really a boss, I'm unionized, my pay is guaranteed no matter how many hours I actually work, no supervision, I can be drunk/incapacitated/distracted while working at my own pace at whatever hours I want.

And yet every time an assignment comes in I want to rip my hair out... :lol:
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby Larry B. » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:40 pm

:lol:

A friend of mine (Anthropologist, PhD, professor in the most prestigious university in Chile) recently told me how he was fucking tired of his job, but he sort of felt bad because it's the best job anyone could have. Most of his classes are already prepared, so he spends most of his time just trying to write stuff but gets distracted by the internet. Same thing, his wage is guaranteed regardless of hours and everything... he told me "I wish I'd get paid just to read."
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby Hype » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:25 pm

The worst part about being any kind of teacher is the infinite ways in which the kids let you down in mind-numbingly stupid pseudo-clever tricky ways, and the way the administration of educational institutions sets things up to force educators to simultaneously try to help the institution appear as if it takes academic dishonesty, talent, ability, learning, etc., seriously, when all that really matters is recruitment, retainment, and getting people to pay as much money as possible. It's a really fucked up kind of stress. It obviously has analogues in other occupations, but it's so fucked up for it to occur in education... and that no one seems capable of doing anything about it.
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby creep » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:40 pm

Adurentibus Spina wrote:The worst part about being any kind of teacher is the infinite ways in which the kids let you down in mind-numbingly stupid pseudo-clever tricky ways, and the way the administration of educational institutions sets things up to force educators to simultaneously try to help the institution appear as if it takes academic dishonesty, talent, ability, learning, etc., seriously, when all that really matters is recruitment, retainment, and getting people to pay as much money as possible. It's a really fucked up kind of stress. It obviously has analogues in other occupations, but it's so fucked up for it to occur in education... and that no one seems capable of doing anything about it.


but the opportunity to sleep with coeds far outweigh the negatives.

i always wondered if a professor could be fired for that because it happens all of the time in movies. even ross on friends was sleeping with a student i think. it seems to ba accepted. :noclue:
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby nausearockpig » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:41 pm

"I can't update my Facebook cos my iPhone isn't connecting to the 4G network...."
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby nausearockpig » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:43 pm

creep wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:The worst part about being any kind of teacher is the infinite ways in which the kids let you down in mind-numbingly stupid pseudo-clever tricky ways, and the way the administration of educational institutions sets things up to force educators to simultaneously try to help the institution appear as if it takes academic dishonesty, talent, ability, learning, etc., seriously, when all that really matters is recruitment, retainment, and getting people to pay as much money as possible. It's a really fucked up kind of stress. It obviously has analogues in other occupations, but it's so fucked up for it to occur in education... and that no one seems capable of doing anything about it.


but the opportunity to sleep with coeds far outweigh the negatives.

i always wondered if a professor could be fired for that because it happens all of the time in movies. even ross on friends was sleeping with a student i think. it seems to ba accepted. :noclue:


how many marijuana cigarettes have you been smoking? You're talking crack again...
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby creep » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:47 pm

nausearockpig wrote:"I can't update my Facebook cos my iPhone isn't connecting to the 4G network...."


i updated my facebook status once in my life. it was in 2010.
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby SR » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:48 pm

Proffs banging students are losers
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby Artemis » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:49 pm

Earlier today, I had trouble hailing a cab because of cyclists blocking my view. I'd stick my arm out to indicate my interest in a passing taxi, but the drivers couldn't see me or get over to the curb. After about 15 minutes, I finally got one. Perhaps bike lanes would help to alleviate this problem.
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby nausearockpig » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:50 pm

SR wrote:Proffs banging students are losers


Exactly why they need to sleep with their profs to get good grades... cos they're dumb losers... :lolol:
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby creep » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:55 pm

nausearockpig wrote:
SR wrote:Proffs banging students are losers


Exactly why they need to sleep with their profs to get good grades... cos they're dumb losers... :lolol:


i doubt it's to get good grades. it's sort of a power thing. have you ever worked with females and are in some sort of management type position? it happens all of the time and earlier in my career i witnessed it quite a bit.

obviously i assume most universities have policies against it but i wonder if professors are actually fired for it. i google searched it:

I'm a professor and I have been shocked at how often this does happen. Although, the cases I've heard of usually involve older students, not freshmen.

From what I've seen, it happens much more in departments where students and professors have to spend a lot of time together. For example, people spend a lot of time on field trips and in labs in my department, and things happen on the trips or when people are working together alone in labs. Many of the professors are married to former grad students! But in departments like English, where professors and students work alone more, I think this kind of thing happens less often.

It happens much less often nowadays than it used to, because many universities have strict policies against it. If I were you, I would NEVER flirt with a professor because he will probably worry that you will sue him for sexual harassment and react VERY badly towards you. The fallout could really hurt your future career and his. Also, people will not respect you if they find out about it. Any professor who actually WOULD get into any kind of relationship with a student these days is taking a huge risk. The professors I know of still do this sort of thing are always pretty weird and immature, and not the kind of people you should get involved with.

Students often think because of movies that professors would love to have sex with a hot student. But the professors I know really don't spend a lot of time thinking about their students--except for the few I mentioned above who don't have great judgment. College students are very young. Most professors are more interested in people who have graduated. A lot of the student - professor relationships I know of started because the professor liked having someone to talk to about his work, not because of the "hot student" stereotype. I have seen a lot of students embarrass themselves because they think all professors want a hot college student. So don't flirt with your professors!

So, it happens... But much less than it did. And the consequences are so severe for any professor caught in a relationship with a student (or vice versa) that a professor would have to be crazy to take the risk. Good luck at university.
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby nausearockpig » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:59 pm

creep wrote:
nausearockpig wrote:
SR wrote:Proffs banging students are losers


Exactly why they need to sleep with their profs to get good grades... cos they're dumb losers... :lolol:


i doubt it's to get good grades. it's sort of a power thing. have you ever worked with females and are in some sort of management type position? it happens all of the time and earlier in my career i witnessed it quite a bit.

obviously i assume most universities have policies against it but i wonder if professors are actually fired for it. i google searched it:

I'm a professor and I have been shocked at how often this does happen. Although, the cases I've heard of usually involve older students, not freshmen.

From what I've seen, it happens much more in departments where students and professors have to spend a lot of time together. For example, people spend a lot of time on field trips and in labs in my department, and things happen on the trips or when people are working together alone in labs. Many of the professors are married to former grad students! But in departments like English, where professors and students work alone more, I think this kind of thing happens less often.

It happens much less often nowadays than it used to, because many universities have strict policies against it. If I were you, I would NEVER flirt with a professor because he will probably worry that you will sue him for sexual harassment and react VERY badly towards you. The fallout could really hurt your future career and his. Also, people will not respect you if they find out about it. Any professor who actually WOULD get into any kind of relationship with a student these days is taking a huge risk. The professors I know of still do this sort of thing are always pretty weird and immature, and not the kind of people you should get involved with.

Students often think because of movies that professors would love to have sex with a hot student. But the professors I know really don't spend a lot of time thinking about their students--except for the few I mentioned above who don't have great judgment. College students are very young. Most professors are more interested in people who have graduated. A lot of the student - professor relationships I know of started because the professor liked having someone to talk to about his work, not because of the "hot student" stereotype. I have seen a lot of students embarrass themselves because they think all professors want a hot college student. So don't flirt with your professors!

So, it happens... But much less than it did. And the consequences are so severe for any professor caught in a relationship with a student (or vice versa) that a professor would have to be crazy to take the risk. Good luck at university.


You'd have to be a fucking lunatic to root a student and think that it won't come back to haunt you...
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby SR » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:12 pm

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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby Larry B. » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:50 pm

creep wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:The worst part about being any kind of teacher is the infinite ways in which the kids let you down in mind-numbingly stupid pseudo-clever tricky ways, and the way the administration of educational institutions sets things up to force educators to simultaneously try to help the institution appear as if it takes academic dishonesty, talent, ability, learning, etc., seriously, when all that really matters is recruitment, retainment, and getting people to pay as much money as possible. It's a really fucked up kind of stress. It obviously has analogues in other occupations, but it's so fucked up for it to occur in education... and that no one seems capable of doing anything about it.


but the opportunity to sleep with coeds far outweigh the negatives.

i always wondered if a professor could be fired for that because it happens all of the time in movies. even ross on friends was sleeping with a student i think. it seems to ba accepted. :noclue:


I have not known ONE university professor (aside from my friend) who has not shagged a student. All of my teachers when I studied music did it, and all my acquaintances who teach have done it. And in senior year of high school, a teacher fucked one of my classmates. She loved it. Oh, and when I taught drums, my only female student came on to me quite openly... I didn't give in and that was the last class I gave her. When I taught bass though, I ended up in a long term relationship with my only female student.

So yeah, it happens A LOT.
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby Hype » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:56 pm

It's not rare, but it's not as common as Larry makes it seem. I've heard rumours of a number of cases, and am fairly certain of two or three, one of which is actually just a former student now long-term dating a prof. Teaching assistants have been known to end up dating their students and in a number of cases I can think of it has gone well (and a few others where it didn't).

There's a recent case that was getting a lot of press, of a somewhat famous philosophy professor who basically seems to have used his power to engage in workplace harassment of his own graduate student. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/03/arts/ ... .html?_r=0 (In this case, we have emails, and the guy's own statements, that show that the dude clearly thought he was well within his rights to do what he was doing... it's very fucked up.)

But I gotta tell ya, having been a teaching assistant for 4+ years, and thus having tutored, lectured, etc., somewhere on the order of 400+ students, about half of whom were teenage girls... for one of my ilk to be in any way tempted to go down that path... either he's a single guy who's too nerdy/smart/ugly/whatever to get hit on at bars, or his peers (or all of them might be taken), or whatever, or he's a married/taken guy who's basically a dick who doesn't give a shit to begin with, in which case it's only a matter of time before he gets a reputation.

There are rare exceptions, but the conditions under which these obtain are extremely narrow (one case I can think of involved an undergrad girl who is now an excellent graduate student, and was only a year behind to begin with...)
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby nausearockpig » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:03 pm

Plus Larry is in South America.. any-fucking-thing goes there and is accepted as OK... for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corralito

I remember in 2003 being in the main drag of the tourist strip in Buenos Aires and standing outside the CitiBank branch which was encased in temporary fencing cos the locals had cracked the shits and attacked the outlet... it was on Florida... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Street
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Re: First World Problem of the Day

Postby SR » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:36 pm

I taught for a decade and never once. I have maintained many friendships with proffs of mine and absurd as it is to universalize based on my narrow experience, none of my friends have. Stupid predatory behavior by fuckwits who mid use their stature (what's left of it) to get laid. Puleeze. Have fun being the one they grow up to comprehensively tegret
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