What's the price of gas where you are?

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Re: What's the price of gas where you are?

#21 Post by dali » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:28 am

Larry B. wrote:
dali wrote: We've fought bloody wars and revolutions to become the laziest country in the world.
:banghead:

I didn't say it was right of us to do that but that's in the past.

I mean, what did you think we did all that fighting and killing for anyway, to make ours lives MORE difficult?

I agree, a lot of the shit this country has done has been wrong, hell starting right off the bat with killing the indians, but since all that is in the past am I not suppose to enjoy the spoils of that?

Don't forget Larry B (with your obvious anti-america attitude) that although we have done many terrible things we are also very hard workers and have built this country into what it is today, for right or wrong.

Now, where did I leave my snuggie? :bigrin:

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#22 Post by Larry B. » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:02 am

dali wrote: we are also very hard workers and have built this country into what it is today, for right or wrong.
I'm not against people working hard. I'm against a country that makes some of their people work 3 jobs so that they can barely ask for credits to feed their family and pay for medicine and education.

Also, as a country, nothing in your present modifies your past. That's like saying 'Hey, I love raping puppies and then feeding them to the elderly, but I'm great with children!'
I can't judge you or any other human being for being born in certain country and enjoying what they have. What I can do is judge someone who thinks the United States is an ethical country who takes good care of their people and it's the savior of the world.

And it's not like the United States have put their imperialism in the past. It's ever-present.

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#23 Post by guysmiley » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:27 am

I bike to work now. About 8 miles at the most. Some days it sucks, but it's quicker for me and I'm healthier. But I have alternatives.

The US is facing a problem but it's not feeling the problem to the extreme other countries are yet. The US has cheaper gas. The government has little control over the prices. However the oil industry has effected the way government promoted alternatives, in dumping special interest money into politics. Oil squashed out the rail system being the main transportation instead of the highway system with money in politics. We American's are hooked on gas and cars, because yes, we can be selfish and lazy, but there really aren't a whole lot of other options. Also, the US is a larger area and younger than most countries. We expanded quickly and urban sprawl has made it were most people commute or work further and further from their homes. When shit does get really bad, we are fucked more than many other countries, and people will have to change the way they live. Until then, people need to quit bitching and take a look in the mirror.

Buy a smaller car.
Work closer to home.
Get a different job.
Pressure the government to give alternative incentives.
Support and vote yes for budgeting in public transportation.
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#24 Post by mockbee » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:41 am

Larry B. wrote:
dali wrote: we are also very hard workers and have built this country into what it is today, for right or wrong.
I'm not against people working hard. I'm against a country that makes some of their people work 3 jobs so that they can barely ask for credits to feed their family and pay for medicine and education.
Why are you so concerned about our welfare yet you call us all idiots, fat and lazy? :noclue:
Larry B. wrote: What I can do is judge someone who thinks the United States is an ethical country who takes good care of their people and it's the savior of the world.

And it's not like the United States have put their imperialism in the past. It's ever-present.
Your ignorance is really on full display here. I don't know why you are so concerned with US blood and treasure. As for imperialism there is an argument to be made in favor of policing the world as well. Look at Libya. Don't get me wrong, I marched in NYC with a million others in strong opposition to the second Iraq war, but I have met a half dozen refugees from Iraq and they have all stated that Saddam had to go, the country was generally stable but he was killing their people. They all supported the US invasion. Not cut and dry as you seem to so simply to make it....

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#25 Post by Larry B. » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:00 am

mockbee wrote:
Larry B. wrote:
dali wrote: we are also very hard workers and have built this country into what it is today, for right or wrong.
I'm not against people working hard. I'm against a country that makes some of their people work 3 jobs so that they can barely ask for credits to feed their family and pay for medicine and education.
Why are you so concerned about our welfare yet you call us all idiots, fat and lazy? :noclue:
Not all of you. Just a lot.
mockbee wrote:
Larry B. wrote: What I can do is judge someone who thinks the United States is an ethical country who takes good care of their people and it's the savior of the world.

And it's not like the United States have put their imperialism in the past. It's ever-present.
Your ignorance is really on full display here. I don't know why you are so concerned with US blood and treasure. As for imperialism there is an argument to be made in favor of policing the world as well. Look at Libya. Don't get me wrong, I marched in NYC with a million others in strong opposition to the second Iraq war, but I have met a half dozen refugees from Iraq and they have all stated that Saddam had to go, the country was generally stable but he was killing their people. They all supported the US invasion. Not cut and dry as you seem to so simply to make it....
See? 'Policing the world'... I mean, what the fuck is that? The US doesn't police the world, it protects its economic interests by means of war or destabilization.

You have met refugees from Iraq and they told you Saddam had to go. How many Americans have you met who had said that Obama has to go? Or that Bush had to go? Or Chaney? Why don't you go on a full scale attack on your own murderers? Unless you think Bush/Chaney and Obama's governments have not killed their own people.

Destabilization is a trademark of the US. It happened in Chile and Cuba and it's happening in Libya, Syria, Iran and who knows where else. Is it because they care?! SURE! Because they care about socialism not working (i.e., Chile 1970-1973 and Cuba) and they really (really) care about oil.

Have you ever played the board game Risk? What the US is doing right now is like when you tried to expand your empire but left a bunch of countries with only 1 troop. The US is bankrupt, but it'll try to stretch anyway so that it can conquer a continent on the board and get 10 reinforcements the next turn.

And once again, I'll insist: it's not so much about all Americans as it's about their political and military leaders and the bunch of people who eat their bullshit and fully support them no matter what.

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#26 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:29 am

Larry B. wrote:See? 'Policing the world'... I mean, what the fuck is that? The US doesn't police the world, it protects its economic interests by means of war or destabilization.

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#27 Post by erotic cheeses » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:30 pm

in the cold north of england its one pound forty eight pence a litre - which is what two and a half dollars, even more in Ireland or the South - which is pretty pricey

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#28 Post by Bandit72 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:46 pm

£1.42 a litre ($2.25 a litre) The government here takes 82p a litre through tax. It is a JOKE.

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#29 Post by Hokahey » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:45 am

Poor Larry. He has no idea how well we actually have it here. He's just like a real American!

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#30 Post by mockbee » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:57 am

No doubt it's messy Larry, but your hyperbole rings hollow.

I must have missed it when Bush/Obama were gassing Americans.

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#31 Post by Larry B. » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:40 am

hokahey wrote:Poor Larry. He has no idea how well we actually have it here. He's just like a real American!
:lol: :lol:

:crazy:

YOU have it well. You're most likely in the higher half of the middle class, as probably most of the people here are. Hell, it's very likely that most of us have it well. That doesn't mean our countries aren't fucked up. And the US certainly is.

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#32 Post by Larry B. » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:43 am

mockbee wrote:No doubt it's messy Larry, but your hyperbole rings hollow.

I must have missed it when Bush/Obama were gassing Americans.
I'd love to argue on that, but you gotta help me out here by thinking a little deeper. It would be a bit exhausting if I have to spell everything out for you, like 'there are other weapons besides gas'. Otherwise, it'd come to the point when I'd have to explain how the fact that most Americans don't use turbans doesn't make a difference.

But perhaps it's not entirely your fault. You've probably seen too many movies and you have the clear image that anybody whose name contains the particle 'abd' wants to kill you (and has probably killed at least 67 Americans and 4 kittens).

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#33 Post by Romeo » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:16 am

We're averaging about $4.05 a gallon. Cash.

Credit is 10 cents more.

it's not a matter of driving less, it's a lack of decent public transportation country wide. I work 24 miles from my home. I have no other choice to drive since there isn't another alternative. The only true public transportation here is into Manhattan.

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#34 Post by blackcoffee » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:55 am

The price of gas where I am is I make her sleep on the sofa....j/k

I'm like Creep. I have a company car and am fortunate enough right now that I don't have to pay for it regularlry. Last time I filled up (in Seattle) it was 4.30 or so.

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#35 Post by sinep » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:44 pm

blackcoffee wrote:The price of gas where I am is I make her sleep on the sofa....j/k

I'm like Creep. I have a company car and am fortunate enough right now that I don't have to pay for it regularlry. Last time I filled up (in Seattle) it was 4.30 or so.
fuck gas cards, i get remembered 51 cents per mile that i drive.

50mpg means i get paid $25.50 for every gallon of gas that i use.

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#36 Post by blackcoffee » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:19 pm

sinep wrote:
blackcoffee wrote:The price of gas where I am is I make her sleep on the sofa....j/k

I'm like Creep. I have a company car and am fortunate enough right now that I don't have to pay for it regularlry. Last time I filled up (in Seattle) it was 4.30 or so.
fuck gas cards, i get remembered 51 cents per mile that i drive.

50mpg means i get paid $25.50 for every gallon of gas that i use.
Well it used to be if you were in the field you expensed every bit of gas you used because the assumption was that you were always using it for work. Because I travel nationally and fly, I feel guilty if I don't pay to fill up on occasion. My car use is mostly to and from the airport, or an occasional local school where I have business. I love the deal I've got.

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#37 Post by Hokahey » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:29 pm

Larry B. wrote:
hokahey wrote:Poor Larry. He has no idea how well we actually have it here. He's just like a real American!
:lol: :lol:

:crazy:

YOU have it well. You're most likely in the higher half of the middle class, as probably most of the people here are. Hell, it's very likely that most of us have it well. That doesn't mean our countries aren't fucked up. And the US certainly is.
No country is perfect. But it's ridiculously hard to not be able to have a roof over your head and a full belly in the US. I could make half of what I make (wouldn't be hard to find a job paying that) and still live perfectly comfortably.

I know countless people that do NOTHING and live perfectly comfortable off of welfare programs that my checks help fund.

What a life.

And then people have the gall to bitch. It's usually those same people too lazy to help themselves.

The ONLY people I have any sympathy for are those mentally incapable of helping themselves by finding the abundance of charity and government assistance.

Don't believe the hype Larry.

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#38 Post by creep » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:03 pm

sinep wrote:
blackcoffee wrote:The price of gas where I am is I make her sleep on the sofa....j/k

I'm like Creep. I have a company car and am fortunate enough right now that I don't have to pay for it regularlry. Last time I filled up (in Seattle) it was 4.30 or so.
fuck gas cards, i get remembered 51 cents per mile that i drive.

50mpg means i get paid $25.50 for every gallon of gas that i use.
there is no car that gets 50mpg. if i remember right you drive a metro. :essence:

maybe you should drive a moped.
The press continues to hype the sudden popularity of older economy cars as a solution to surging gas prices.

An AP story appearing in the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune and elsewhere this morning says "In the past year, the average used small car price has gone up 2 percent, from $9,278 to $9,470, according to wholesale auto auction data collected by the National Automobile Dealers Association." Tom Libby, senior director of industry analysis for the Power Information Network, a division of J.D. Power, told the AP that "his company's data shows the biggest used car price increases in the super-small category."

A San Jose Mercury News story gets specific, saying that some older cars, "like the [Geo] Metro," can get "as much as 45 miles to the gallon," which "rivals mileage for hybrids."

Sounds terrific. It isn't true, though.

The federal government altered the formula it uses to calculate gas mileage last year. The old formula -- the one used to calculate the mileage of those economy cars when they were first sold -- exaggerated the actual mileage most drivers saw from their cars. The new formula is supposed to be more accurate.

It's easy to compare old and new numbers -- the EPA has already done it for you, publishing the older numbers alongside the new, revised numbers on its website.

So let's look at the mileage of that 1992 Geo Metro. According to the old formula it should have managed a combined mileage rating of 38 mpg. That's not far below the 46 mpg of the current Toyota Prius, just like the Mercury-News claims. According to the revised formula, however, that 1990 Metro should actually manage only 33 mpg -- 13 below the Prius. That's not nearly as impressive. In fact, it's nearly the same rating as many current small cars. Considering that the 1992 Metro features only one airbag and earned a "safety concern" from the federal government even by the standards of sixteen years ago, you should probably think long and hard before paying thousands of dollars for one.

That hasn't stopped some people from making a profit off the trend while they can. CNN reports, "In May alone, 43 Metros of various years and models were sold on eBay, ranging in price from $221.50," all they way up to "$7,300. The cars have been hot items, drawing upwards of 49 bids on certain vehicles, with many of the auctions coming down to last-second bidding wars." One recent Metro buyer told eBay she "has acquired another Metro, which she is considering flipping on eBay for profit. She has her eye on a third at a local car lot."

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#39 Post by sinep » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:36 pm

creep wrote:
there is no car that gets 50mpg. if i remember right you drive a metro. :essence:
are you going to make me go outside and dig up the sticker? are you really going to make me do that? is that something that i'm going to have to do?

cuz i'll do it...

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#40 Post by sinep » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:41 pm

oh, sticker says 49...

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i did 54/55 on the way back from arizona once though.

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#41 Post by clickie » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:50 pm

if larry wasnt such a full blown asshole i'd probably help him out getting his foot in the door over here..
theres two guys fresh from chili who work at the auto shop 2 miles from my house...
they told me the motto over in chili is.." Where the weather is sunny and the people are shady..."
i'm pretty sure these guys were only hired because they dont have a problem ripping people off. :lol:

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#42 Post by mockbee » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:54 pm

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Mmmmmmm..... fresh chilli

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#43 Post by clickie » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:46 pm

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you guys hungry yet?

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