Aint No Right

Looks like this whole show is up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmJLB_sphEQ

That was fairly awesome.

It looked like Sonny sitting in on Perks kit.

i never noticed that they have the drum tech actually playing chip away with them.

Live Voodoo?

It's the Austrailia show.

i hate that song. Seriously. haha

That clip sums up all that was wrong with the Eric reunion once the NINJA tour started. There's a palpable wall between Eric and the other three guys, everything's being played tuned way too far down, and Perry constantly veers into clownish self-parody.

if he's gonna sing all raspy, i don't know why he doesn't just embrace it. Don't try to sing high with a rasp, just sing low.

Mark Lanegan has made a career out of it.

Six7Six7 wrote:if he's gonna sing all raspy, i don't know why he doesn't just embrace it. Don't try to sing high with a rasp, just sing low.

Mark Lanegan has made a career out of it.

sorry! I never post emoticons. But you love to bitch my friend!

Just kidding.

bman wrote:Just kidding.

no you aren't. i think he would be the first to admit that he loves to bitch.

Six7Six7 wrote:if he's gonna sing all raspy, i don't know why he doesn't just embrace it. Don't try to sing high with a rasp, just sing low.

Mark Lanegan has made a career out of it.

Mark Lanegan has made a career out of it, Perry hasn't. It'd be one thing if he did that for new songs, but it wouldn't make sense for the old ones, and for what it's worth, I thought this performance was pretty good.

bman wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:if he's gonna sing all raspy, i don't know why he doesn't just embrace it. Don't try to sing high with a rasp, just sing low.

Mark Lanegan has made a career out of it.

sorry! I never post emoticons. But you love to bitch my friend!

Who's bitching? I'm just saying, he should embrace where his voice is instead of trying to fight it. I said the same thing before TGEA came out when someone posted some cover song he did with Peter Murphy's band. He sounded good when he just stayed low.

Six7Six7 wrote:

bman wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:if he's gonna sing all raspy, i don't know why he doesn't just embrace it. Don't try to sing high with a rasp, just sing low.

Mark Lanegan has made a career out of it.

sorry! I never post emoticons. But you love to bitch my friend!

Who's bitching? I'm just saying, he should embrace where his voice is instead of trying to fight it. I said the same thing before TGEA came out when someone posted some cover song he did with Peter Murphy's band. He sounded good when he just stayed low.

he did get a hernia from singing recently so i guess the guy is trying but he just can't sustain his voice on tour.

Pandemonium wrote:That clip sums up all that was wrong with the Eric reunion once the NINJA tour started. There's a palpable wall between Eric and the other three guys, everything's being played tuned way too far down, and Perry constantly veers into clownish self-parody.

Yep. I almost walked out at the NIN/JA show I saw. Utterly heartbreaking. The Vibes show was infinitely better.

CaseyContrarian wrote:
Yep. I almost walked out at the NIN/JA show I saw.

come on now. no one believes that.

creep wrote:

CaseyContrarian wrote:
Yep. I almost walked out at the NIN/JA show I saw.

come on now. no one believes that.

Truth. It broke my fucking heart. Perry was in full Liberace mode, and I think they were tuned down the full step, which just sounded like shit. I hung out with them backstage before the show for at least an hour, so I was really hoping it would be good. I actually did leave early, as a matter of fact, during Summertime Rolls (second-to-last song).

I was depressed for days.

CaseyContrarian wrote:

creep wrote:

CaseyContrarian wrote:
Yep. I almost walked out at the NIN/JA show I saw.

come on now. no one believes that.

Truth. It broke my fucking heart. Perry was in full Liberace mode, and I think they were tuned down the full step, which just sounded like shit. I hung out with them backstage before the show for at least an hour, so I was really hoping it would be good. I actually did leave early, as a matter of fact, during Summertime Rolls (second-to-last song).

I was depressed for days.

How did u get to hang with them? I want real details.

creep wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:

bman wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:if he's gonna sing all raspy, i don't know why he doesn't just embrace it. Don't try to sing high with a rasp, just sing low.

Mark Lanegan has made a career out of it.

sorry! I never post emoticons. But you love to bitch my friend!

Who's bitching? I'm just saying, he should embrace where his voice is instead of trying to fight it. I said the same thing before TGEA came out when someone posted some cover song he did with Peter Murphy's band. He sounded good when he just stayed low.

he did get a hernia from singing recently

!

CaseyContrarian wrote:Perry was in full Liberace mode, and I think they were tuned down the full step, which just sounded like shit.

In fact, I think they went down 3 semitones at some point. By then, Eric's bass could've easily been used as a bow. It was awful.

CaseyContrarian wrote:
I was depressed for days.

CaseyContrarian wrote:

creep wrote:

CaseyContrarian wrote:
Yep. I almost walked out at the NIN/JA show I saw.

come on now. no one believes that.

Truth. It broke my fucking heart. Perry was in full Liberace mode, and I think they were tuned down the full step, which just sounded like shit. I hung out with them backstage before the show for at least an hour, so I was really hoping it would be good. I actually did leave early, as a matter of fact, during Summertime Rolls (second-to-last song).

I was depressed for days.

I hear ya. I was looking forward to the Jone's Beach Ninja show and I thought they blew. I think my seats and Jone's Beach being a wind swirl shit box contributed, but Perry sounded the worst I've ever seen. I went to lolla that year and he sounded much better. He was on fire at Irving Plaza this past October. I don't see how he can sustain a whole tour at this point, way too hit and miss.

Strange. I was 5th row at Jones Beach for Ninja and thought it was one of the better Janes shows I've seen.

KC Ninja show was great. Perry hasnt been on top of his game for awhile, but it was as good a Jane's show in a venue that size could have been.

I did leave as soon as Jane Says started. I've heard it a million times and wanted to beat the traffic.

I had fun though. Got way too stoned during NIN and the strobe lights were eating my brain though. By the time Jane's came on I was feeling better.

I thought the band sounded fine in Pittsburgh, Perry was the problem. He wasn't singing any of the songs with their original melodies, and the majority of the time he didn't even sing.... he just did that crooning talk thing.

If the band is going to downtune for his vocal range, he should at least sing. If he's just going to talk, then what does it fucking matter what key they are in? They shouldn't have compromised their sound when he doesn't give 100% onstage anyway.

I really wish Eric had followed through with his idea to do a band with himself, Dave, Perk, and Trent Reznor. Even though Trent has blown his voice from 20 straight years of yelling, he's at least found ways of making it work live.

Some nights are better than others. That's just the way it is.