Matz wrote:There's a youtube video from 89 or something though where he deliberately kicks Frusciante really hard which was sad to see
To be clear, that was when John wanted out and was a fucking junkie. He would deliberately play chords wrong during live performances, performances that were supposed to blow the socks (no pun intended) off crowds when BSSM was just released.
Umm, NO.
He wasn't a junkie when he left. He only smoked pot at that time. He left because he was unhappy the band was so fucking huge and he just wanted to be left alone to be a shy artist in the corner somewhere.
He didn't start doing heroin till after he left the band.
I realize that. You're right. You jolted my memory. It wasn't until after he left the band that he got into the HARD drugs. John was just being a prick because voices in his head were telling him the fame the band had gathered was bad, so he wanted out and was practically sabotaging the band during live performances. The SNL performance where Anthony kicks John from the ground is the one I was talking about, I've never seen the '89 kick that Matz is talking about.
BTW I really liked your "Umm, NO." Can never get enough of seeing that on the interwebs
Matz wrote:There's a youtube video from 89 or something though where he deliberately kicks Frusciante really hard which was sad to see
To be clear, that was when John wanted out and was a fucking junkie. He would deliberately play chords wrong during live performances, performances that were supposed to blow the socks (no pun intended) off crowds when BSSM was just released.
Umm, NO.
He wasn't a junkie when he left. He only smoked pot at that time. He left because he was unhappy the band was so fucking huge and he just wanted to be left alone to be a shy artist in the corner somewhere.
He didn't start doing heroin till after he left the band.
I realize that. You're right. You jolted my memory. It wasn't until after he left the band that he got into the HARD drugs. John was just being a prick because voices in his head were telling him the fame the band had gathered was bad, so he wanted out and was practically sabotaging the band during live performances. The SNL performance where Anthony kicks John from the ground is the one I was talking about, I've never seen the '89 kick that Matz is talking about.
BTW I really liked your "Umm, NO." Can never get enough of seeing that on the interwebs
It wasn't meant to be interwebby. I type the way I talk. haha
I'd be down for a Jane's and the Pumpkins tour. At the very least, they'd be trying to upstage each other with their massive egos and the fans might get a decent experience out of the whole thing.
I'm interested to see how much the Gish and Siamese Dream re-issues will outsell the Oceania album by. That will be a huge slap in the face to Billy, if a fuckload of people buy his old stuff reissued and then ignore his new stuff entirely. Why doesn't he just release Oceania early as some kind of "deluxe" package with the two reissues for the holidays? People might actually be tempted to listen to his new stuff when they were done listening to his old stuff.
Matz wrote:There's a youtube video from 89 or something though where he deliberately kicks Frusciante really hard which was sad to see
To be clear, that was when John wanted out and was a fucking junkie. He would deliberately play chords wrong during live performances, performances that were supposed to blow the socks (no pun intended) off crowds when BSSM was just released.
Umm, NO.
He wasn't a junkie when he left. He only smoked pot at that time. He left because he was unhappy the band was so fucking huge and he just wanted to be left alone to be a shy artist in the corner somewhere.
He didn't start doing heroin till after he left the band.
I realize that. You're right. You jolted my memory. It wasn't until after he left the band that he got into the HARD drugs. John was just being a prick because voices in his head were telling him the fame the band had gathered was bad, so he wanted out and was practically sabotaging the band during live performances. The SNL performance where Anthony kicks John from the ground is the one I was talking about, I've never seen the '89 kick that Matz is talking about.
BTW I really liked your "Umm, NO." Can never get enough of seeing that on the interwebs
It wasn't meant to be interwebby. I type the way I talk. haha
Matz wrote:There's a youtube video from 89 or something though where he deliberately kicks Frusciante really hard which was sad to see
To be clear, that was when John wanted out and was a fucking junkie. He would deliberately play chords wrong during live performances, performances that were supposed to blow the socks (no pun intended) off crowds when BSSM was just released.
Umm, NO.
He wasn't a junkie when he left. He only smoked pot at that time. He left because he was unhappy the band was so fucking huge and he just wanted to be left alone to be a shy artist in the corner somewhere.
He didn't start doing heroin till after he left the band.
I realize that. You're right. You jolted my memory. It wasn't until after he left the band that he got into the HARD drugs. John was just being a prick because voices in his head were telling him the fame the band had gathered was bad, so he wanted out and was practically sabotaging the band during live performances. The SNL performance where Anthony kicks John from the ground is the one I was talking about, I've never seen the '89 kick that Matz is talking about.
BTW I really liked your "Umm, NO." Can never get enough of seeing that on the interwebs
there is no 89 kick then, cause we must be talking about the same thing here. I was just certain it was during a Mother's milk song it happened.
Matz wrote:There's a youtube video from 89 or something though where he deliberately kicks Frusciante really hard which was sad to see
To be clear, that was when John wanted out and was a fucking junkie. He would deliberately play chords wrong during live performances, performances that were supposed to blow the socks (no pun intended) off crowds when BSSM was just released.
Umm, NO.
He wasn't a junkie when he left. He only smoked pot at that time. He left because he was unhappy the band was so fucking huge and he just wanted to be left alone to be a shy artist in the corner somewhere.
He didn't start doing heroin till after he left the band.
I realize that. You're right. You jolted my memory. It wasn't until after he left the band that he got into the HARD drugs. John was just being a prick because voices in his head were telling him the fame the band had gathered was bad, so he wanted out and was practically sabotaging the band during live performances. The SNL performance where Anthony kicks John from the ground is the one I was talking about, I've never seen the '89 kick that Matz is talking about.
BTW I really liked your "Umm, NO." Can never get enough of seeing that on the interwebs
there is no 89 kick then, cause we must be talking about the same thing here. I was just certain it was during a Mother's milk song it happened.
"Stone Cold Bush" from their '92 appearance on SNL.
John needed that kick imo.
If I was in a band and we were blowing up, making awesome music and get paid for doing it, I'd be pissed too if the guitar player starts playing like shit on purpose and doesn't want the band to be a big success. Everyone is going all out here except John, who's being a bitch. Regardless...I actually liked his guitar sound throughout this performance
Kajicat wrote:The video is flipped. Everyone is playing left handed. The dude who uploaded it on youtube says he had to do this because of copyright issues.
i was wondering why the video was flipped like that
Kajicat wrote:The video is flipped. Everyone is playing left handed. The dude who uploaded it on youtube says he had to do this because of copyright issues.
i was wondering why the video was flipped like that
NBC is militant about having their stuff pulled from YouTube.
creep wrote:ok..what is strange about the guitar playing in this video. not talking about the sound. anyone?
it's a high energy song that calls for a high energy solo. Instead John plays this mellow little thing which could be what pissed Anthony off, still shouldn't have kicked him for it though. Flea said that in that particular period on the BSSM tour John would often do the opposite of what the band was doing, when they were quiet he was loud and vice versa.
creep wrote:ok..what is strange about the guitar playing in this video. not talking about the sound. anyone?
it's a high energy song that calls for a high energy solo. Instead John plays this mellow little thing which could be what pissed Anthony off, still shouldn't have kicked him for it though. Flea said that in that particular period on the BSSM tour John would often do the opposite of what the band was doing, when they were quiet he was loud and vice versa.
Yup. That's what pisses me off the most about John. Aside from his stupid fucking face and his cursed-poet pose.
That SNL performance would have been PERFECT if John hadn't played such a mind-numbingly stupid solo. Everyone is rocking the shit out of the song, providing a great foundation for a proper solo, and John Frustrating plays like 'clank-clink... clenk-clank-cloink... clank-clank-cloonk..."
calm down Larry, he only did it in that time period, check out his solos for SCB during the MM tour and you'll see how it's done, I LOVE that John, amazing.
I just watched Under the bridge again from SNL which I hadn't in a long time. And in a way, ironically, what he's doing is very rock'n roll cause he's rebelling against his band, against succes, money, stupid the teenage fans of the band that he hates etc. To me it's actually a very cool moment not saying it's right though. It took a lot of balls too to do that on what's essentially a live family oriented program I guess too, screaming WHOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO and all that stuff and the aggressive guitar playing.....it's fuckin cool
Matz wrote:calm down Larry, he only did it in that time period, check out his solos for SCB during the MM tour and you'll see how it's done, I LOVE that John, amazing.
I just watched Under the bridge again from SNL which I hadn't in a long time. And in a way, ironically, what he's doing is very rock'n roll cause he's rebelling against his band, against succes, money, stupid the teenage fans of the band that he hates etc. To me it's actually a very cool moment not saying it's right though. It took a lot of balls too to do that on what's essentially a live family oriented program I guess too, screaming WHOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO and all that stuff and the aggressive guitar playing.....it's fuckin cool
The irony is that that band has always been a bunch of punkass bitches who act likes fools in public. But the moment John started doing it for real, they got mad.
John's guitar playing is excellent in the Stone Cold Bush performance on SNL, I seriously like the tone he has...but yeah, the solo just doesn't fit. The other 3 are rocking the fuck out while John is over in the corner playing with some other band that only exists in his head. It seriously looks like he's in a completely different band from the rest of them during the solo. I'd kick him too, knowing he's doing it on purpose and that it doesn't sound good. I seriously wish Chad had fucked him up one night to kick his ass into gear. Would have been a great story piece too...
yeah well the peppers kinda sucked before frusciante .. mothers milk was mostly flea and anthony .. stone cold bush blows as a song in general .. they should kiss frusciantes ass for the magic he brought to the table on blood sugar .. cant blame him for not wanting to jump around like a moron to a really bad song
Matz wrote:calm down Larry, he only did it in that time period, check out his solos for SCB during the MM tour and you'll see how it's done, I LOVE that John, amazing.
I just watched Under the bridge again from SNL which I hadn't in a long time. And in a way, ironically, what he's doing is very rock'n roll cause he's rebelling against his band, against succes, money, stupid the teenage fans of the band that he hates etc. To me it's actually a very cool moment not saying it's right though. It took a lot of balls too to do that on what's essentially a live family oriented program I guess too, screaming WHOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO and all that stuff and the aggressive guitar playing.....it's fuckin cool
Yes i agree. I always liked that. And that he pissed Mr. King Anthony off is even better. I can't stand that guy.
trevor ayer wrote:yeah well the peppers kinda sucked before frusciante .. mothers milk was mostly flea and anthony .. stone cold bush blows as a song in general .. they should kiss frusciantes ass for the magic he brought to the table on blood sugar .. cant blame him for not wanting to jump around like a moron to a really bad song
Wha...I respect your opinion but I think Uplift Mofo Party Plan and Freaky Styley are both excellent! As far as MM is concerned Stone Cold Bush is an excellent sexfunk ride through the land of the Positive Mental Octopus.
Original Peppers were best Peppers. Hillel Slovak was THE MAN. Uplift Mofo was their best album. Admittedly, Mother's Milk might be their second best, but as good as BSSM was, it was overproduced (my opinion, relax) and sapped some of that crisper, punkier sound right out of them.
That was actually one of the songs from the s/t that was written by Jack Sherman. But Hillel did write Out in LA, Get Up And Jump, Police Helicopter, Green Heaven, and a little of Baby Appeal. Sherman wasn't bad at all though, as I really like the song you posted + Buckle Down and Baby Appeal.
Hate the band with a passion, but I disagree about MM vs BSSM. The former has that shitty chorus on the guitar on every goddamn song, and the snare has that awful gated reverb. It sounded tacky even the day it came out.
OHM is the only musically listenable RHCP record.
Jasper wrote:Original Peppers were best Peppers. Hillel Slovak was THE MAN. Uplift Mofo was their best album. Admittedly, Mother's Milk might be their second best, but as good as BSSM was, it was overproduced (my opinion, relax) and sapped some of that crisper, punkier sound right out of them.
That was actually one of the songs from the s/t that was written by Jack Sherman. But Hillel did write Out in LA, Get Up And Jump, Police Helicopter, Green Heaven, and a little of Baby Appeal. Sherman wasn't bad at all though, as I really like the song you posted + Buckle Down and Baby Appeal.
Really, I didn't know that. I thought that Flea and Hillel wrote everything up to Mother's Milk. Where did you get that information?
Can never get enough of seeing that on the interwebs 
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