“Whores” in 2023

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#76 Post by someguy » Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm

Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#77 Post by Hokahey » Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:59 pm

someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I think someone messaged me on Facebook about getting the board started again.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#78 Post by intertwoven » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:14 pm

I typed up a whole "history of the online Jane's scene as I remember it" essay back around the Troy tour but pussied out posting it here.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#79 Post by Hokahey » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:38 pm

intertwoven wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:14 pm
I typed up a whole "history of the online Jane's scene as I remember it" essay back around the Troy tour but pussied out posting it here.
Whaaaat???? I want to read that.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#80 Post by someguy » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:50 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:59 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I think someone messaged me on Facebook about getting the board started again.
But how did everyone find out about it?

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#81 Post by Hokahey » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:28 pm

someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:50 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:59 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I think someone messaged me on Facebook about getting the board started again.
But how did everyone find out about it?
I’m not sure/don’t remember. But I think it was along those lines. Word of mouth on social media to start.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#82 Post by LifeIsLoud » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 pm

someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:50 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:59 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I think someone messaged me on Facebook about getting the board started again.
But how did everyone find out about it?
janesaddiction.org board.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#83 Post by someguy » Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:19 pm

LifeIsLoud wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:50 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:59 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I think someone messaged me on Facebook about getting the board started again.
But how did everyone find out about it?
janesaddiction.org board.
Damn that’s right haha- can’t remember the last time I visited that place

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#84 Post by Hokahey » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:24 pm

LifeIsLoud wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:50 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:59 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I think someone messaged me on Facebook about getting the board started again.
But how did everyone find out about it?
janesaddiction.org board.
:lolol:

The irony of it all.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#85 Post by phenobarb_bambalam » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:34 pm

LifeIsLoud wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 pm

janesaddiction.org board.
This was my guess but I wasn't sure. Makes complete sense though, especially given the influx of ANR accounts with join dates of August 2011. How the fuck has it been almost 12 years?!

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#86 Post by thoreau » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:04 pm

I remember Mike made some announcement that he was shutting our thread down because we were supposedly shit-talking JA.org. I don't think evidence of that ever surfaced, but he I remember he started banning us one by one right after. :lol:

Wow, 12 years? A ton of life and events have occurred in this collective during that time

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#87 Post by Hokahey » Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:58 am

thoreau wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:04 pm
I remember Mike made some announcement that he was shutting our thread down because we were supposedly shit-talking JA.org. I don't think evidence of that ever surfaced, but he I remember he started banning us one by one right after. :lol:

Wow, 12 years? A ton of life and events have occurred in this collective during that time
I don’t think I had any awareness of that happening over there. I’m shocked that thread lasted long enough for anyone to see it. But of course not surprised by Mikes behavior.

And yeah, my life has changed dramatically during that time.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#88 Post by creep » Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:07 am

intertwoven wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:14 pm
I typed up a whole "history of the online Jane's scene as I remember it" essay back around the Troy tour but pussied out posting it here.
come on....let's see it

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#89 Post by REA » Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:44 am

What happened to the guy with handle Paintsdri,or something like that?. Think he lived in the country/farm type thing . He sent me a bunch of burned CDs once just to be cool

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#90 Post by esqfool » Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:01 pm

I think I'm still friends with him on Facebook. I certainly thought that was a troll account for years though.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#91 Post by Mescal » Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:08 am

REA wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:44 am
What happened to the guy with handle Paintsdri,or something like that?. Think he lived in the country/farm type thing . He sent me a bunch of burned CDs once just to be cool
He got fed up with the negativety around here if I remember correctly

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#92 Post by Artemis » Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:10 am

Mescal wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:08 am
REA wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:44 am
What happened to the guy with handle Paintsdri,or something like that?. Think he lived in the country/farm type thing . He sent me a bunch of burned CDs once just to be cool
He got fed up with the negativety around here if I remember correctly
That rings a bell...I think you're right. I vaguely remember people picking on him for saying that and asking for his retirement speech. :lol:

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#93 Post by JOEinPHX » Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:19 am

LifeIsLoud wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:50 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:59 pm
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I think someone messaged me on Facebook about getting the board started again.
But how did everyone find out about it?
janesaddiction.org board.
I had an account on there, but never ever posted, and they banned me.

Literally banned with a post count of 0

I kind of respect it honestly. I would have banned me back then, too. :lol:

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#94 Post by JOEinPHX » Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:24 am

someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I feel like we talked about it on xiola, honestly.

sonny pulling the plug was fast, but I think there were signs it was coming. Didn't he yank down all the Eric Avery interviews first? I feel like things on the site disappeared and someone was like "where do we go if he shuts the board down too?" and then by the time he shut it all down, we were already ready and knew where to go.

Am I remembering this wrong?

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#95 Post by someguy » Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:40 pm

Six7Six7 wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:24 am
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I feel like we talked about it on xiola, honestly.

sonny pulling the plug was fast, but I think there were signs it was coming. Didn't he yank down all the Eric Avery interviews first? I feel like things on the site disappeared and someone was like "where do we go if he shuts the board down too?" and then by the time he shut it all down, we were already ready and knew where to go.

Am I remembering this wrong?
From what I remember I tried to go on the site one day and it was down with a note from Sonny. I was shocked and didn’t see it coming. That would make sense though because I also remember there wasn’t much of a waiting period if at all

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#96 Post by Artemis » Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:01 pm

someguy wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:40 pm
Six7Six7 wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:24 am
someguy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:25 pm
Completely forget- how did we get the word to migrate over here when Sonny pulled the plug on Xiola?
I feel like we talked about it on xiola, honestly.

sonny pulling the plug was fast, but I think there were signs it was coming. Didn't he yank down all the Eric Avery interviews first? I feel like things on the site disappeared and someone was like "where do we go if he shuts the board down too?" and then by the time he shut it all down, we were already ready and knew where to go.

Am I remembering this wrong?
From what I remember I tried to go on the site one day and it was down with a note from Sonny. I was shocked and didn’t see it coming. That would make sense though because I also remember there wasn’t much of a waiting period if at all
I remember the same thing about the site going down suddenly and the note from Sonny. I was really surprised as well, though the signs were there as Six7 said.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#97 Post by tubro » Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:43 am

Tyler Durden wrote:
Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:32 am
As an aside, Patti Smith’s “Rock N Roll Nigger” was quietly removed from streaming platforms last year, without explanation.
Patti used to sing it every night. Since 2017 she’s played it once, in 2019.
John Lennon had a song about women being the N-word of the world. I wonder if he’d still sing it.

I actually logged in today for the first time in a few weeks specifically to ask this question. So reading the thread has been illuminating but not surprising. Hohakey has nailed it in his posts in my view so I have little to add. Whomever said ‘but black people use it’ is a racist. Whomever cited other offensive words that aren’t quite as taboo as this one is ignorant. This isn’t a debate about woke-ness, no matter how much MAGA people want yo make everything just that. In our culture white people have enjoyed an historical advantage socially and economically. No? The US has all sorts of historical blood on its hands but slavery is the worst. No? This word is painful for any person of color to hear. It’s well earned its place at the top of the list of offensive words. So white peiple, it seems to me, can give this one up. Arguing otherwise always seems like someone who really wants to call the black guy who cuts him off on the highway a N-word.

On the other hand there’s art. Artists can make their own choices with their art. And I think Perry and Patti have.

One question I’d pose is what are peoples opinions on Quentin Tarantino? Dude seems almost obsessed with giving himself lines in his films where he says that word. I’m not sure why.

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#98 Post by SR » Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:01 pm

tubro wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:43 am
Tyler Durden wrote:
Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:32 am
As an aside, Patti Smith’s “Rock N Roll Nigger” was quietly removed from streaming platforms last year, without explanation.
I actually logged in today for the first time in a few weeks specifically to ask this question. So reading the thread has been illuminating but not surprising. Hohakey has nailed it in his posts in my view so I have little to add. Whomever said ‘but black people use it’ is a racist. Whomever cited other offensive words that aren’t quite as taboo as this one is ignorant. This isn’t a debate about woke-ness, no matter how much MAGA people want yo make everything just that. In our culture white people have enjoyed an historical advantage socially and economically. No? The US has all sorts of historical blood on its hands but slavery is the worst. No? This word is painful for any person of color to hear. It’s well earned its place at the top of the list of offensive words. So white peiple, it seems to me, can give this one up. Arguing otherwise always seems like someone who really wants to call the black guy who cuts him off on the highway a N-word.
Worth multiple reads

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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#99 Post by Tyler Durden » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:57 pm

A thought provoking piece from a simpler time (or more intelligent time). Only 11 years ago :lol:


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Re: “Whores” in 2023

#100 Post by thoreau » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:21 pm

SR wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:01 pm
tubro wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:43 am
Tyler Durden wrote:
Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:32 am
As an aside, Patti Smith’s “Rock N Roll Nigger” was quietly removed from streaming platforms last year, without explanation.
I actually logged in today for the first time in a few weeks specifically to ask this question. So reading the thread has been illuminating but not surprising. Hohakey has nailed it in his posts in my view so I have little to add. Whomever said ‘but black people use it’ is a racist. Whomever cited other offensive words that aren’t quite as taboo as this one is ignorant. This isn’t a debate about woke-ness, no matter how much MAGA people want yo make everything just that. In our culture white people have enjoyed an historical advantage socially and economically. No? The US has all sorts of historical blood on its hands but slavery is the worst. No? This word is painful for any person of color to hear. It’s well earned its place at the top of the list of offensive words. So white peiple, it seems to me, can give this one up. Arguing otherwise always seems like someone who really wants to call the black guy who cuts him off on the highway a N-word.
Worth multiple reads
:nod: :nod: :nod:

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