Navarro: What makes him great?

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#126 Post by autumnan » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:38 pm

Couldn't agree more. So much trauma going on there. Sending out healing thoughts x

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#127 Post by clickie » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:00 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:10 pm
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Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:11 am
Well i'm one of the few believers that Dave is having health issues with the long covid. It's one thing to compare going on tour with painting street signs or whatever he does.
Did you forget about the gaping hole in his arm?
I did forget about that. It's something I think about from time to time, how people like Perry can just decide to quit the hard stuff and never look back.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#128 Post by lucio » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:17 pm

Dave's guitar part at 1:07 in the 2011 montage vid below "makes him great" Why would Dave want to do any more recording with JA when his best playing since Ritual doesn't get included in the album. None of this cool sounding shit ended up on the record. That’s why TGEA was terrible.
Why was this montage of music not included on TGEA, Perry



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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#129 Post by Hokahey » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:35 pm

lucio wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:17 pm
Dave's guitar part at 1:07 in the 2011 montage vid below "makes him great" Why would Dave want to do any more recording with JA when his best playing since Ritual doesn't get included in the album. None of this cool sounding shit ended up on the record. That’s why TGEA was terrible.
Why was this montage of music not included on TGEA, Perry


I’m not sure this is the great example you think it is. I’d have never picked this out as anything noteworthy or even something identifiable as being Dave.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#130 Post by lucio » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:29 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:35 pm
lucio wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:17 pm
Dave's guitar part at 1:07 in the 2011 montage vid below "makes him great" Why would Dave want to do any more recording with JA when his best playing since Ritual doesn't get included in the album. None of this cool sounding shit ended up on the record. That’s why TGEA was terrible.
Why was this montage of music not included on TGEA, Perry


I’m not sure this is the great example you think it is. I’d have never picked this out as anything noteworthy or even something identifiable as being Dave.
I think Dave's guitar sound, note choice, background layers of effects combined to set the mood well on that example. Your right it doesn't sound like Dave's typical guitar style. He got away from the 2.0 "Another soulmate" stuff for a minute and brought in some needed atmosphere that he's been missing. That's why I'm rating this example. Wish he could explore this direction more but it's not likely he will since it was cut from TGEA.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#131 Post by dannyboy » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:02 am

Speculation Alert ‼️

Dave’s fiancé has just posted “90” days on the gram. I think that means 90 days sober, and hopefully it goes for the both of them.

Great news I think.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#132 Post by dannyboy » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:04 am

Or it could be countdown to wedding???

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#133 Post by guysmiley » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:56 am

I hope he's getting well no matter the issue.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#134 Post by autumnan » Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:45 am

Had this on in the car (cassette, yeah?), this is one of those superb Navarro moments. The point is made between 2'30" and 3'13"... :dave1: :rockon:


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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#135 Post by Noonesshocking » Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:37 pm

Figured I'd ask here: does anyone know if Dave uses 9 or 10 gauge strings? Conflicting info online. I've heard him say he uses "lighter gauge" strings but not sure what he means by that.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#136 Post by Moschops » Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:06 pm

Noonesshocking wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:37 pm
Figured I'd ask here: does anyone know if Dave uses 9 or 10 gauge strings? Conflicting info online. I've heard him say he uses "lighter gauge" strings but not sure what he means by that.
He did a promotional thing for Ernie Ball where he says he plays Ernie Ball strings and they flash up an image of a pack of nines and a pack of tens. So maybe he plays both? I’ve no idea if that counts as a definitive answer though - he doesn’t seem to actually mention what gauge he plays, they may have just used a stock image.

Thicker strings = heavier gauge. Thinner strings = lighter gauge.


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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#137 Post by kv » Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:03 am

if he said lighter he prob means under 10, as 10 is sorta standard

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#138 Post by JOEinPHX » Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:45 am

Noonesshocking wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:37 pm
Figured I'd ask here: does anyone know if Dave uses 9 or 10 gauge strings? Conflicting info online. I've heard him say he uses "lighter gauge" strings but not sure what he means by that.
I kind of recall an episode of Dark Matter in which this question was asked, and Dave basically said "I don't know, ask Dan (Cleary) what I currently play."

So ask Dan.

Also, I don't know it tuning affects what gauge is used (not a guitar player), but Dan also made a joke about how one day, without anyone asking, he just decided he wasn't tuning Dave's guitar down a half step anymore, that Perry was just going to have to hit the original notes. And he did.

I wish I could tell you what episode it was on, but I know it happened.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#139 Post by Essence_Smith » Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:47 pm

Noonesshocking wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:37 pm
Figured I'd ask here: does anyone know if Dave uses 9 or 10 gauge strings? Conflicting info online. I've heard him say he uses "lighter gauge" strings but not sure what he means by that.
The 9 and 10 gauge refer to the high E string which is the bottom string…the low E string on the top and is usually the heaviest string. The lower the number the thinner the string and heavier strings tend to get a heavier sound but they tend to require more force to play. The school of thinking is the heaviest players use heavier strings but they can vary…if he said he played 11s I’d be shocked…the difference is definitely noticeable on the top strings…usually lighter gauge strings can help with leads and soloing, but 9 and 10 are close. I’m curious now if the 9 means his low E is a 42 and 10 means his low E is a 46…they make a lot of different variations now…sorry for the guitar geek out lol…damn now I’m wondering what gauge picks he uses :lolol:

But simply the guys in Metallica probably play 10s or 11s but for a player like Dave 9s or lighter strings seem to make sense…heavy music heavy strings

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#140 Post by kv » Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:01 pm

yup
10 46
9 42

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#141 Post by guysmiley » Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:32 am

I play heavy bottoms 10-56, so there's lots of variety out there. Hell , I have a guitar with a bass string on it.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#142 Post by Noonesshocking » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:40 pm

Thanks everyone. I raised the question because I was fucking around with "Just Because" with 10's and realized the one bend in the main riff you have to pull off with one finger is actually pretty difficult to execute, so it made me suspect he may use 9's for that song at least.

I may throw a pair of 9's on and just see how all the JA songs I know how to play feels with them.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#143 Post by kv » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:57 pm

guysmiley wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:32 am
I play heavy bottoms 10-56
Ernie ball? have a buddy that loves those ..perfect for the bass player who wants to play guitar lol

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#144 Post by guysmiley » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:31 am

kv wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:57 pm
guysmiley wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:32 am
I play heavy bottoms 10-56
Ernie ball? have a buddy that loves those ..perfect for the bass player who wants to play guitar lol
yeah, but lots of companies have the same set

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#145 Post by Diabolik » Mon May 22, 2023 8:26 am

Every time Perk posts an old picture of Dave on Instagram and says he loves him…I get nervous.

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#146 Post by JOEinPHX » Mon May 22, 2023 9:27 am

Diabolik wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 8:26 am
Every time Perk posts an old picture of Dave on Instagram and says he loves him…I get nervous.
Yeah I'm just waiting to hear that "long covid" was code for "lung cancer"

You just can't smoke for 50 years like that and not have it do SOMETHING.

Hang in there, Dave!

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#147 Post by REA » Mon May 22, 2023 5:11 pm

Diabolik wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 8:26 am
Every time Perk posts an old picture of Dave on Instagram and says he loves him…I get nervous.
its Jerry Springer grim

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#148 Post by clickie » Tue May 23, 2023 4:15 pm

I don't even watch Inkmaster anymore since Dave is barely on there.

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#149 Post by Noonesshocking » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:10 am

JA insta wished him a happy birthday. They used a black and white photo again which got me real nervous before I read the caption

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Re: Navarro: What makes him great?

#150 Post by Tyler Durden » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:50 am

Noonesshocking wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:10 am
JA insta wished him a happy birthday. They used a black and white photo again which got me real nervous before I read the caption
Same.

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