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#121 Post by SR » Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:36 pm

Rhythm section showed up with punch and fury. For me, the real takeaway is EA appears to be truly invested...stage presence and these facsimiles here of what he wrote, just great. The question remains will DN be? This was a major commitment made some time ago and the 11th hour bs to allow for the graffiti tour could've waited. Fuck, he could have taken that on the road and it would have been more interesting, truer to ver.1, and consequential. All said with the hope he isn't gravely ill. The guy who made a formal introduction to me and DN at the Westwood apt died last year. We are at that age. I am not looking to apply a purity test to this guitarist; I think he did a capable job for the most part to maintain some of the danger and imperfections that made them so great. I kinda dig the whole pixie dust spreading stage presence he has too.

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#122 Post by CaseyContrarian » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:05 pm

Eric is bringing so much nutsack to the situation they’re almost getting away with it. Jane’s needs this earth element.
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#123 Post by SR » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:15 pm

What are you havin? Mescal? On me. :cheers:

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#124 Post by Noonesshocking » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:25 pm

I think they sound cool. There are details in the guitar parts that are missing here and there but it has a vibe.

One pet peeve - EVERYONE plays the “chorus” in up the beach wrong. People play one note when you’re supposed to let the d and a strings ring over them too.

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#125 Post by S&M » Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:46 pm

I haven’t watched many clips .. But one thing I noticed is removing Dave really exposed how important Eric’s bottom end groove, swing & stomp were super missing!!..I mean we all noticed it over the years?. But this nakedness really makes it apparent and obvious he was the missing spice!! ..The energy is definitely better!! ..Now if we get Dave back soon?.. They can start cooking with gas for one last blast!!! 🔥♥️☮️♥️

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#126 Post by esqfool » Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:54 pm

While not JA 1.0, it doesn't sound terrible, just different. Maybe it'll improve as the shows go (Covid has mellowed me and I'm more of an optimist nowadays). Perry sounds pretty good considering he's in his 60's. Perk and Eric are just locked in, so damn good. I was thinking while eating dinner, having Chaney in the band is the true definition of the Deconstruction lyric "its a shame when the parts fit, but the machine won't work". Technically proficient, nice guy, and whatnot, but man Eric brings a certain something to the songs that is undeniable.

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#127 Post by S&M » Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:33 pm

Chemistry can’t be replicated..It’s the magical thing about music that still fascinates me!! ..It’s not something you can force?.. I’m curious how Stephen feels? ..After all those years? ..And I never felt Eric’s first return felt right? 🤔 For many reasons?..This feels very different? .. I can’t put my finger on it? 🤔..Perhaps as many have pointed out Covid shifted our consciousness? ..Maybe more in the moment? Enjoy things through different lenses and take each moment as it comes?..In any case this feels more natural? 😃

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#128 Post by Hokahey » Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:56 pm

esqfool wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:54 pm
having Chaney in the band is the true definition of the Deconstruction lyric "its a shame when the parts fit, but the machine won't work". Technically proficient, nice guy, and whatnot, but man Eric brings a certain something to the songs that is undeniable.
Well said. And a lyric that has played in my head so many times in life.

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#129 Post by CaseyContrarian » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:12 pm

A bunch of better sounding videos being uploaded now. I stand by my earlier assessments of TVL. I don’t mind that he’s not doing Dave’s solos (or even using them as a template), but he’s not playing anything particularly interesting. I just don’t find his musical mind appealing, at least in this context.

Eric and Stephen are crushing it, and I like the new energy—part of that is the novelty of TVL. Hope Dave can vibe on that when and if he returns.

https://youtu.be/HQ6BGVJ2imI

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#130 Post by creep » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:25 pm

at least perry doesn't look as stupid tonight

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#131 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:27 pm

S&M wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:33 pm
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..And I never felt Eric’s first return felt right? 🤔 For many reasons?..This feels very different? .. I can’t put my finger on it?
It's funny, I feel 180 degrees opposite. For the 4 LA bar/club shows in 2008/2009, Erics return felt more then right. Clearly things went to hell during the Reznor sessions and the NINJA tour it became more and more obvious Eric wasn't long for the band as the tour wore on. This feels like Eric getting a payday. The real test is whether they can come up with decent new music.


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#133 Post by S&M » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:40 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:27 pm
S&M wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:33 pm
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..And I never felt Eric’s first return felt right? 🤔 For many reasons?..This feels very different? .. I can’t put my finger on it?
It's funny, I feel 180 degrees opposite. For the 4 LA bar/club shows in 2008/2009, Erics return felt more then right. Clearly things went to hell during the Reznor sessions and the NINJA tour it became more and more obvious Eric wasn't long for the band as the tour wore on. This feels like Eric getting a payday. The real test is whether they can come up with decent new music.
Started out in the right place and fun didn’t it? 😜..Lotta bitterness from Perry towards the band leaving him still existed...And Perry even said he hated Rock music during that period...Prescription meds!!..Dick waving contest!!..”I like’s em big” etc!! ..Voice and inspiration missing!!..Down-tuned and tired...Felt forced to me? ..Uncomfortable. I thought it was disappointing ..I think this is coming from a completely different place this time? 🤔 More genuine vibe? ..Eric has played in many bands for paychecks but somehow I think this is different for him this time?..People involved in totally different places today..Maybe I’m really off? 🤔 But I feel this is for fun and creative energy this time?.. Tying up loose messy strings and past regrets .. Possible potential? 😃☮️♥️

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#134 Post by S&M » Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:34 am

Guitar parts are hard to pick out? .Messy!!..Especially on my iPhone and the audience recording…But there’s life in the old whore yet!! 😂 Glad Perry is kicking up his delay!! And putting effort into it!!👍 https://youtu.be/uNgJzO0R83E

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#135 Post by S&M » Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:47 am

I am really sorry for triple posting but it occurred to me that maybe Perry and Dave got a little too comfortable? A little too autopilot? Maybe all of this wonderful new Porno for Pyros energy and current struggles that Jane’s is having is actually really good in the long run?.. It seems like Perry is reaching really deep for what he has left in the tank? ..Instead of going through the motions? .. I mean that’s how I’m kind of seeing it?. What are you guys thinking? . As a guitar player also, I’m kind 🫤. But I think I am going to go to the show when it comes to the Bay..If I can get tickets “just because”.I love Energy!!
tomorrow never knows? ☮️ 😘

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#136 Post by creep » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:32 am





this is actually 1%.





ANR not 1%


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#137 Post by someguy » Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:42 am

Watching those videos is amazing to me how good those basslines feel and how long that was missing.

Also lol at Perry and Eric sharing a bro moment before stop

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#138 Post by Hokahey » Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:34 am

I like the Houston videos a lot more than Dallas. Dave's absence is definitely felt. Troy has a very Chris Chaney like effect on the band. Hopefully Dave gets better and we can get classic Jane's one last time. Also, Perry is sounding very much his age.

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#139 Post by CaseyContrarian » Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:55 am

I’d love a Chaney type on guitar who actually played the parts properly. I thought TVL would be that, and was looking forward to a little inspired coloring outside the lines.

Instead, we have an extremely haphazard take on some truly signature guitar parts. On the bright side, the combination of factors gives an edge that reminds of the XXX era. Except that 19 year-old Navarro smokes fiftysomething TVL. Fuck, 19 year old *me* smokes fiftysomething TVL. Oh well.

But overall it’s fun to experience some actual energy with this band. I hope Dave can rejoin and make proper use of it. ASAP, please.

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#140 Post by jptm » Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:41 am

Much better Three Days in Houston; Troy seems to have overcome the nerves of the Dallas show... 11 min. ? Sure!~

Hope this is a sign to come; it's gotta get better...

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#141 Post by autumnan » Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:12 am

Hokahey wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:34 am
Troy has a very Chris Chaney like effect on the band
I was thinking just the opposite, the clips I saw Troy was moving around a lot, interacting with Perkins, pulling some shapes :) I wouldn't want a note for note replica of Dave's parts from a stand in guitarist, I want him to bring some of his own artistry which I certainly hear in the FX and textures.

As for other guest guitarists, bringing on Nels Cline would be exciting!!!

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#142 Post by Hokahey » Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:53 am

autumnan wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:12 am
Hokahey wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:34 am
Troy has a very Chris Chaney like effect on the band
I was thinking just the opposite, the clips I saw Troy was moving around a lot, interacting with Perkins, pulling some shapes :) I wouldn't want a note for note replica of Dave's parts from a stand in guitarist, I want him to bring some of his own artistry which I certainly hear in the FX and textures.

As for other guest guitarists, bringing on Nels Cline would be exciting!!!

Maybe I haven't watched enough. Looked stiff and sounds generic from what I've seen. Blending in with the stage.

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#143 Post by CaseyContrarian » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:21 am

autumnan wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:12 am
Hokahey wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:34 am
Troy has a very Chris Chaney like effect on the band
I was thinking just the opposite, the clips I saw Troy was moving around a lot, interacting with Perkins, pulling some shapes :) I wouldn't want a note for note replica of Dave's parts from a stand in guitarist, I want him to bring some of his own artistry which I certainly hear in the FX and textures.

As for other guest guitarists, bringing on Nels Cline would be exciting!!!
Yes he would!

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#144 Post by CaseyContrarian » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:23 am

Good sound and close up video on this “Three Days” from Houston.

https://youtu.be/vwtztcgCrr8

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#145 Post by CaseyContrarian » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:31 am

It’s like 1971 Jimmy Page in the band. Which you’d think I’d like more, lol.

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