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Re: JA/Smashing Pumpkins Tour

#21 Post by SR » Wed May 11, 2022 10:48 am

I saw Jane's at the Bowl. Good show. It was the one where Hole (they were great) opened and she went on a shitshow tirade against Perry. They cut power in response. Peter came out and played with Jane's. Nice night.

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#22 Post by bman » Wed May 11, 2022 10:55 am

Hokahey wrote:
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Livenation presale code is FINALE
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#23 Post by Artemis » Wed May 11, 2022 1:28 pm

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TOURDATES:

10/24 – Scotiabank Arena @ Toronto, ON**

** with guests Jane’s Addiction + opener Poppy
*^ with guests Jane’s Addiction + opener Meg Myers
Nope. Even the nosebleeds will at least $60 at Scotiabank Arena.

The last time I saw the Smashing Pumpkins was in 2015 with Marilyn Manson. I think it was called "End of Days" tour or something like that. SP were okay, not terrific but not horrible either. I had seen them a couple of times in the 90s and this show was a bit of a deflation compared to their earlier shows.

I'll have to see if the Howard Stern is on Youtube...I'd like to hear it.

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#24 Post by bman » Thu May 12, 2022 7:37 am

That was a very good interview on Stern. And Jane Says actually sounded really good! I got floor tix for the MSG show. Sadly it looks like there is no pit. WTF! All seats.

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#25 Post by Hokahey » Thu May 12, 2022 8:04 am

Cheap seats are $46. Floor $147.

I'll absolutely go for $46 and make an evening of it, but I'm going to wait. These venues are way too big and I'm guessing the majority will not sell out.

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#26 Post by Pandemonium » Thu May 12, 2022 11:43 am

I checked tickets for the Anaheim Pond aka Honda Center and the first dozen rows on the floor and on the sides are all "VIP" package seats running near $700 to $350+ per ticket. Anything further back on the floor runs about $99 - $150+. Interest looks pretty low, I'd guess this show might sell about 60% of available seats max. Hollywood Bowl prices are even more outrageous - Orchestra Pit runs $550 - $1,450. Expect the typical "Dynamic Pricing" bullshit to drop ticket prices way down as November approaches.

Hard Pass.

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#27 Post by ESY » Thu May 12, 2022 11:43 am

Janes as a purely nostalgia act, like a Beach Boys of the 90s. I just can’t. Saw them first in ‘89, last time 09. Every iteration in between. Came full circle in ‘09 seeing Eric again. Something poetic about that. I’m good from here on out.

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#28 Post by Pandemonium » Thu May 12, 2022 11:47 am

SR wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 10:48 am
I saw Jane's at the Bowl. Good show. It was the one where Hole (they were great) opened and she went on a shitshow tirade against Perry. They cut power in response. Peter came out and played with Jane's. Nice night.
I caught that show as well. That "performance" by Courtney Love completely solidified my dislike of her completely overshadowing whatever merits her music may (have) had. The Janes set was really the last time I thought the band had any of the old vibe left in them.

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#29 Post by Hokahey » Thu May 12, 2022 12:30 pm

ESY wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 11:43 am
Janes as a purely nostalgia act, like a Beach Boys of the 90s. I just can’t. Saw them first in ‘89, last time 09. Every iteration in between. Came full circle in ‘09 seeing Eric again. Something poetic about that. I’m good from here on out.
I can understand the poetic aspect.

But even '09 felt like a let down to me. '12 was better because Perry was being less ridiculous.

If I do go, I'm not really looking at it as seeing Jane's Addiction and Smashing Pumpkins. It's more like a snapshot of those bands and an evening of entertainment.

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Re: JA/Smashing Pumpkins Tour

#30 Post by SR » Thu May 12, 2022 1:01 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 11:47 am
SR wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 10:48 am
I saw Jane's at the Bowl. Good show. It was the one where Hole (they were great) opened and she went on a shitshow tirade against Perry. They cut power in response. Peter came out and played with Jane's. Nice night.
I caught that show as well. That "performance" by Courtney Love completely solidified my dislike of her completely overshadowing whatever merits her music may (have) had. The Janes set was really the last time I thought the band had any of the old vibe left in them.
Yes, she's an idiot. Her behavior with the rights, etc and aggressive posture with the balance of Nirvana did it for me. And probably things I've long forgotten.

I wouldn't go to this because I hate the Bowl for concerts these days...and the prices. But, I had an absolute blast at the NS 25th anniversary thing on Sunset Blvd some years back. They were well into their cash in/lost voice/cosmetic surgery/B list TV show host era, but I can't completely remove what I loved about em in my youth when I'm there. Met a couple of peeps from here there, but once the show got started, I was in my own world and 24 again. Left drenched. Enjoy for those going. :rockon:

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#31 Post by Pandemonium » Thu May 12, 2022 8:13 pm

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Thu May 12, 2022 1:01 pm
(snip)

I wouldn't go to this because I hate the Bowl for concerts these days...and the prices. But, I had an absolute blast at the NS 25th anniversary thing on Sunset Blvd some years back. They were well into their cash in/lost voice/cosmetic surgery/B list TV show host era, but I can't completely remove what I loved about em in my youth when I'm there. Met a couple of peeps from here there, but once the show got started, I was in my own world and 24 again. Left drenched. Enjoy for those going. :rockon:
I agree regarding the Hollywood Bowl. I cannot stand being stuck in those 4 seat boxes with typically at least 2 other drunk idiots. Parking is like the 7th level of Hell. I think the last show I caught there was Arcade Fire back in May of 2007 and since then, I've blown off some shows there I would have otherwise made a serious effort to see.

The last Janes show I had a really good time at was Duff's last gig with them at the Roxy the Summer of 2020 which was I think the first time they used the Suspension Girls gimmick. The 2012 Great Escape tour show at the Wiltern was just ok.

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#32 Post by kv » Thu May 12, 2022 8:44 pm

I feel the same way about the Greek...been there a billion times...don't care if I go to the bowl or Greek again...echoplex with Eric was my pull the plug moment...standard small set..done

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#33 Post by Hokahey » Thu May 12, 2022 9:02 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:13 pm
SR wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 1:01 pm
(snip)

I wouldn't go to this because I hate the Bowl for concerts these days...and the prices. But, I had an absolute blast at the NS 25th anniversary thing on Sunset Blvd some years back. They were well into their cash in/lost voice/cosmetic surgery/B list TV show host era, but I can't completely remove what I loved about em in my youth when I'm there. Met a couple of peeps from here there, but once the show got started, I was in my own world and 24 again. Left drenched. Enjoy for those going. :rockon:
I agree regarding the Hollywood Bowl. I cannot stand being stuck in those 4 seat boxes with typically at least 2 other drunk idiots. Parking is like the 7th level of Hell. I think the last show I caught there was Arcade Fire back in May of 2007 and since then, I've blown off some shows there I would have otherwise made a serious effort to see.

The last Janes show I had a really good time at was Duff's last gig with them at the Roxy the Summer of 2020 which was I think the first time they used the Suspension Girls gimmick. The 2012 Great Escape tour show at the Wiltern was just ok.
Holy shit I completely forgot Duff was a member of Jane's Addiction. What a weird few years that was.

I love how any time another serious musician tries to invest in modern Jane's they never stick around.

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#34 Post by Diabolik » Fri May 13, 2022 7:54 am

Bit the bullet and grabbed a floor seat at the end of the row

Was it more than I wanted to pay ? Yes. But at least it wasn’t unlimited platinum BS prices. Just cover price.

I haven’t see Jane’s since 2013 and it seems that the band may not tour much based in recent histories. So…eh…

I think MSG may weirdly be a great setting for them —I don’t think they have played there since …01? Did they play during the reunions? Regardless it might bring something great out of them.

Yes they are a nostalgia act but…I’m in my forties it was blind to happen!

I’m excited though —haven’t seen Pumpkins since 1994!

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#35 Post by Hokahey » Fri May 13, 2022 2:37 pm

Looks like hardly any tickets sold for St. Louis so far. Still plenty of seats up near the front. I'll wait until close to the show, and if it's still happening without a covid cancelation I'll grab some cheap tix, squint, and pretend it's still the 90s for a few hours.

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#37 Post by bman » Tue May 17, 2022 7:54 am

bman wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9qXNJtWYGg
Would it kill Navarro to add some little solos like Corgan!

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#38 Post by Hokahey » Tue May 17, 2022 8:21 am

bman wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 7:54 am
bman wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 7:50 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9qXNJtWYGg
Would it kill Navarro to add some little solos like Corgan!
It would require him to actually care about doing anything beyond going through the motions. Fat chance.

But that sounded pretty good. It's always lovely when Etty isn't somehow inserting herself in to things.

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#39 Post by almerin » Tue May 17, 2022 11:34 am

Smashing Pumpkins/Porno For Pyros tour I would like better since they're both 90's groups. Could have made their return really good.

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#40 Post by sinep » Thu May 26, 2022 2:20 pm

I would have been soooooooo into this in like 2005. Honda Center is an easy "in and out" for me... this concert is like 17 years too late.

I don't think I could physically handle the "cringe" of seeing Perry live ever again. I'd probably cringe so hard my heart and lungs would give out.

Billy is *almost* as bad as Perry...

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#41 Post by Hokahey » Thu May 26, 2022 4:37 pm

sinep wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 2:20 pm
I would have been soooooooo into this in like 2005. Honda Center is an easy "in and out" for me... this concert is like 17 years too late.

I don't think I could physically handle the "cringe" of seeing Perry live ever again. I'd probably cringe so hard my heart and lungs would give out.

Billy is *almost* as bad as Perry...
I think I've hit both an age and level of acceptance that I just don't care enough to cringe. $100 for two tickets in the upper level is a reasonable price for an evening of entertainment for me. I won't be going for an "experience" like I used to, but as something to go do.

Side note - I've had a lot of people ask me to go to this show with them. I guess I'm the "Jane's Addiction guy" for some of my friends/family, and they figure it'll be more fun with me. I've had to explain things to all of them. :lol: I've tried not to be too negative, because non die hards tend to still like Jane's live. But I don't want them thinking "this is what he was always on about?"

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#42 Post by ESY » Sat May 28, 2022 6:45 am

bauhaus recently in a small venue, 10ft from the stage, was an experience. An intense and transcendent one. It’s because the band themselves have so much reverence for their own material. As they should. The Janes crew on the other hand? Let’s face it - Jane’s are just Karaoke Jane’s now. They have zero respect for what they made. Jane’s should never have warped into a thing to do.

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#43 Post by Hokahey » Sat May 28, 2022 7:26 am

ESY wrote:
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bauhaus recently in a small venue, 10ft from the stage, was an experience. An intense and transcendent one. It’s because the band themselves have so much reverence for their own material. As they should. The Janes crew on the other hand? Let’s face it - Jane’s are just Karaoke Jane’s now. They have zero respect for what they made. Jane’s should never have warped into a thing to do.
I couldn't agree more. But that ship sailed a long time ago. If they were coming alone I'd likely sit it out. But TWO karaoke versions of once favorite bands?? Apparently I'm in. :lol:

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#44 Post by ESY » Sat May 28, 2022 7:50 am

:dunce: :rockon:

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Re: JA/Smashing Pumpkins Tour

#45 Post by phenobarb_bambalam » Sun May 29, 2022 10:06 pm

bman wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 7:54 am

Would it kill Navarro to add some little solos like Corgan!
Let's see whether he even makes the dates.

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