I honestly wonder if they maybe had to sign rights over for that song or something of the like? Could just be the live versions with flea were so special they didn't want to taint it? Naw these guys will taint it all...
Hard Charger
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Pandemonium
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Possibly. I do know that Stern and Co dearly wanted Van Halen to record a new song with Roth (and this was around the VH with Roth reunion MTV appearance disaster) exclusively for the soundtrack but VH wanted something like a $ million plus for one song. Instead, Stern wound up licensing old VH classic Jamie's Cryin'" for the soundtrack for a fraction of the cost. Being follow labelmates on Warner Bros (who released the Private Parts soundtrack), someone probably suggested or passed on the idea of Porno/Janes contributing a new song and a much more budget-friendly price.
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Tool was also supposed to have their cover of No Quarter on the soundtrack but the band yanked it at the last possible moment because while the label Tool was on said it was ok to use the song, when the band heard about it being used they said they didn't want it on there. That caused Howard to go on multiple rants against the band and Maynard personally.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:27 amPossibly. I do know that Stern and Co dearly wanted Van Halen to record a new song with Roth (and this was around the VH with Roth reunion MTV appearance disaster) exclusively for the soundtrack but VH wanted something like a $ million plus for one song.
I remember reading an interview years ago that Maynard gave that brought it up and he said one time he was listening to the show and Howard was saying that Maynard was down in the lobby wanting to come up to apologize to Howard but Howard didn't want him in the studio and to have someone throw him out of the building while at the time Maynard was listening to it he was at his house in California
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Shocker. No one from Tool has ever struck me as humble or gracious.crater wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:59 pmTool was also supposed to have their cover of No Quarter on the soundtrack but the band yanked it at the last possible moment because while the label Tool was on said it was ok to use the song, when the band heard about it being used they said they didn't want it on there. That caused Howard to go on multiple rants against the band and Maynard personally.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:27 amPossibly. I do know that Stern and Co dearly wanted Van Halen to record a new song with Roth (and this was around the VH with Roth reunion MTV appearance disaster) exclusively for the soundtrack but VH wanted something like a $ million plus for one song.
I remember reading an interview years ago that Maynard gave that brought it up and he said one time he was listening to the show and Howard was saying that Maynard was down in the lobby wanting to come up to apologize to Howard but Howard didn't want him in the studio and to have someone throw him out of the building while at the time Maynard was listening to it he was at his house in California
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phenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:15 pmIt's been interesting to read between the (non-existent) lines of social media on this. Pete has been blasting images from the LA show non-stop in the week since. The Perry/PFP accounts, similar. Perk's - effusive, even if not as voluminous. Martyn....crickets. Not making more of it than simple observations, and just hoping that he's just taking stock.
(read: Just hoping this doesn't follow previous scenarios where the wheel has fallen off before take off and then they prop it up with some chaney-shaped joke)
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What do you mean? Is it because it was a last minute pull? I don't know much about the individuals except Maynard's wine is objectively undrinkable, but I lean towards articles/info on great drummers and Danny seems really down to earth in a Kansas sort of way.Hokahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:56 pmShocker. No one from Tool has ever struck me as humble or gracious.crater wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:59 pmTool was also supposed to have their cover of No Quarter on the soundtrack but the band yanked it at the last possible moment because while the label Tool was on said it was ok to use the song, when the band heard about it being used they said they didn't want it on there. That caused Howard to go on multiple rants against the band and Maynard personally.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:27 amPossibly. I do know that Stern and Co dearly wanted Van Halen to record a new song with Roth (and this was around the VH with Roth reunion MTV appearance disaster) exclusively for the soundtrack but VH wanted something like a $ million plus for one song.
I remember reading an interview years ago that Maynard gave that brought it up and he said one time he was listening to the show and Howard was saying that Maynard was down in the lobby wanting to come up to apologize to Howard but Howard didn't want him in the studio and to have someone throw him out of the building while at the time Maynard was listening to it he was at his house in California
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Well, as far as Danny goes...SR wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:11 amWhat do you mean? Is it because it was a last minute pull? I don't know much about the individuals except Maynard's wine is objectively undrinkable, but I lean towards articles/info on great drummers and Danny seems really down to earth in a Kansas sort of way.Hokahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:56 pmShocker. No one from Tool has ever struck me as humble or gracious.crater wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:59 pmTool was also supposed to have their cover of No Quarter on the soundtrack but the band yanked it at the last possible moment because while the label Tool was on said it was ok to use the song, when the band heard about it being used they said they didn't want it on there. That caused Howard to go on multiple rants against the band and Maynard personally.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:27 amPossibly. I do know that Stern and Co dearly wanted Van Halen to record a new song with Roth (and this was around the VH with Roth reunion MTV appearance disaster) exclusively for the soundtrack but VH wanted something like a $ million plus for one song.
I remember reading an interview years ago that Maynard gave that brought it up and he said one time he was listening to the show and Howard was saying that Maynard was down in the lobby wanting to come up to apologize to Howard but Howard didn't want him in the studio and to have someone throw him out of the building while at the time Maynard was listening to it he was at his house in California
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 921909002/
This made me lose a lot of respect for him. And his and the bands refusal to ever comment or apologize made me lose even more.Police alleged that Carey used an anti-gay slur and repeatedly jabbed someone in the chest with two fingers.
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Yeah, I did see that and never heard about its resolution. I thought I heard that he denied it along with some witnesses. But if true, well then 
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That's a pretty vague news report.Hokahey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:54 amWell, as far as Danny goes...SR wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:11 amWhat do you mean? Is it because it was a last minute pull? I don't know much about the individuals except Maynard's wine is objectively undrinkable, but I lean towards articles/info on great drummers and Danny seems really down to earth in a Kansas sort of way.Hokahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:56 pmShocker. No one from Tool has ever struck me as humble or gracious.crater wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:59 pmTool was also supposed to have their cover of No Quarter on the soundtrack but the band yanked it at the last possible moment because while the label Tool was on said it was ok to use the song, when the band heard about it being used they said they didn't want it on there. That caused Howard to go on multiple rants against the band and Maynard personally.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:27 amPossibly. I do know that Stern and Co dearly wanted Van Halen to record a new song with Roth (and this was around the VH with Roth reunion MTV appearance disaster) exclusively for the soundtrack but VH wanted something like a $ million plus for one song.
I remember reading an interview years ago that Maynard gave that brought it up and he said one time he was listening to the show and Howard was saying that Maynard was down in the lobby wanting to come up to apologize to Howard but Howard didn't want him in the studio and to have someone throw him out of the building while at the time Maynard was listening to it he was at his house in California
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 921909002/
This made me lose a lot of respect for him. And his and the bands refusal to ever comment or apologize made me lose even more.Police alleged that Carey used an anti-gay slur and repeatedly jabbed someone in the chest with two fingers.
Pretty strange you form an opinion on somebody based on one news report. Maybe he was being harrassed by a fan, maybe he was having a bad day, whatever ...
Shocker. No one from Tool has ever struck me as humble or gracious.
At least they didn't make a movie about how great they are
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Mescal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:52 amThat's a pretty vague news report.Hokahey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:54 amWell, as far as Danny goes...SR wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:11 amWhat do you mean? Is it because it was a last minute pull? I don't know much about the individuals except Maynard's wine is objectively undrinkable, but I lean towards articles/info on great drummers and Danny seems really down to earth in a Kansas sort of way.Hokahey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:56 pmShocker. No one from Tool has ever struck me as humble or gracious.crater wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:59 pmTool was also supposed to have their cover of No Quarter on the soundtrack but the band yanked it at the last possible moment because while the label Tool was on said it was ok to use the song, when the band heard about it being used they said they didn't want it on there. That caused Howard to go on multiple rants against the band and Maynard personally.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:27 am
Possibly. I do know that Stern and Co dearly wanted Van Halen to record a new song with Roth (and this was around the VH with Roth reunion MTV appearance disaster) exclusively for the soundtrack but VH wanted something like a $ million plus for one song.
I remember reading an interview years ago that Maynard gave that brought it up and he said one time he was listening to the show and Howard was saying that Maynard was down in the lobby wanting to come up to apologize to Howard but Howard didn't want him in the studio and to have someone throw him out of the building while at the time Maynard was listening to it he was at his house in California
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 921909002/
This made me lose a lot of respect for him. And his and the bands refusal to ever comment or apologize made me lose even more.Police alleged that Carey used an anti-gay slur and repeatedly jabbed someone in the chest with two fingers.
Pretty strange you form an opinion on somebody based on one news report. Maybe he was being harrassed by a fan, maybe he was having a bad day, whatever ...
Shocker. No one from Tool has ever struck me as humble or gracious.
At least they didn't make a movie about how great they are
If it didn't happen, he didn't bother denying it.According to a report, obtained by TMZ, Carey got physical with the other person, shoving them in the chest with two fingers and shouting, "You're a f*****g f****t!" multiple times.
Also I don't care about him getting physical if it was warranted, or about Howard Stern and whatever he does.
My problem is with Danny using that word and neither he nor the band seeming to give a shit.
On a side note, I remember getting a cease and desist from tools lawyers for listing a VHS concert on eBay like 20 years ago. Like I was some big time bootlegger trying to make a living off of them.
I just think they're probably a bunch of douche bags.
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Hard Charger is a work of art but the band doesn't know it because they don't play it. Perry put it on Rev CD and then forgot about it. The version I like the most is the Private Parts live.
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Tool are pretty meh…
I saw them three times early on—
Once, during that album with Sober ( that was good )
Second time during that second album (?) with the song about California falling into the sea ( This was in DC and it was good l, but I was starting to see that while they are good live, they were anti-charismatic while doing it )
Third time at MSG and I think it was third album? I went for opening act which was Mike Pattons Fantomas — I bailed 20 minutes into Tools set. Just ponderous
With slight curiosity I listened to the album that took force that came out a few years ago …same old Tool. Songs were reliably long and all had the same vibe
Mid.
Just ponderous and the stage was dark and couldn’t see them performing and maybe if I was on drugs it would have been something but it was just slow and long and drudgery
I saw them three times early on—
Once, during that album with Sober ( that was good )
Second time during that second album (?) with the song about California falling into the sea ( This was in DC and it was good l, but I was starting to see that while they are good live, they were anti-charismatic while doing it )
Third time at MSG and I think it was third album? I went for opening act which was Mike Pattons Fantomas — I bailed 20 minutes into Tools set. Just ponderous
With slight curiosity I listened to the album that took force that came out a few years ago …same old Tool. Songs were reliably long and all had the same vibe
Mid.
Just ponderous and the stage was dark and couldn’t see them performing and maybe if I was on drugs it would have been something but it was just slow and long and drudgery
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did a rabbit hole a few years ago on maynards groupie abuse allegations and it was pretty gross ..