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#2 Post by JOEinPHX » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:32 am

At this point I don't think he wears those scarves for fashion, I think he wears them to cover up how old his neck is in comparison to his face.

It's sad to listen to him suck on those fake teeth. Like they are dentures or something.

I couldn't get past the first 5 minutes. So boring. Someone summarize please.

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#3 Post by Larry B. » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:02 pm

It's blocked here. Thank Jesus for copyright bullshit.

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#4 Post by Artemis » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:08 pm

Larry B. wrote:It's blocked here. Thank Jesus for copyright bullshit.
Blocked here too.

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#5 Post by creep » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:24 pm

perry wasn't too weird in this interview. actually gave somewhat coherent answers. then he starts talking about his new project and gets nutty.


the problem with this interview is that it is boring. the interviewer is pretty bad and perry is perry. :noclue:

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#6 Post by JOEinPHX » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:21 pm

Not quite sure what's up with him holding that guitar. But I fixed it to make the situation more realistic to his musical contributions.

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#7 Post by Larry B. » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:33 am

:lolol:

The important thing is: did Perry, at any point, said that life is a party? Or that life is about partying? Or that his life was a party?

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#8 Post by Bandit72 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:23 am

Who does he think he is? K.K. Downing?

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#9 Post by bman » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:55 am

This interview was better than most of the recent ones. Perry seems coherent. His mind still wanders off and he still cant sit still. He does still have his dream for a new kind of show (Kind Heaven?), with the same amount of bands as the first lolla (9). So he does still dream big, which is a good thing IMO. But at the end of the day it just seems like the original lolla idea, or enit actually, and, someone has to pay for it. So like all of his other ideas, I'm sure it will just turn in to some kind of tour, hopefully. He said Janes is a part of it too. I doubt it. There's zero to hate on.

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#10 Post by ZOINK » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:21 am

I got through about 5 minutes and then the website wanted me to disable AD Block Plus. It was basically Perry dodging questions or answering them without answering them. He got called out on being a 5 year old bartender (interviewer asked him twice what was his specialty drink) and Perry just dodged the question. Perry was all over the place and really didn't answer the questions. Just mumble-jumble about how he is cool. And he brought Etty into the conversation early on.

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#11 Post by tvrec » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:34 pm

I got through it in a couple sittings. There was some interesting stuff like his discussion of his stage name-- not new info mind you, but just interesting to hear him speak about it directly and link it to his personality. Nonetheless, he does dodge a lot of questions, especially irksome in relation to Jane's outtakes, though he did say that he doesn't know where the masters for that material is and he seemed distraught about it. He also seemed distraught when the conversation turned to the r n 'r HOF. The worst, though, is his continued discussion of his special unnamable project that will create a new platform fr music by having a rotation of collaborating musicians. :bs:

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#12 Post by bman » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:38 pm

There are no mystery Janes outtakes. And even if there were Perry and Dave and Stephen would probably have no clue where they are. I'd be more interested in hearing the rough stuff and jams from TGEA sessions. B/C I think they did record like 20 songs. Perry definitely has canned material that he goes too in interviews now. I've heard the story of him hanging out with his Brother and Sister and dancing for them now in several interviews! When I'm 57 I'm sure my memory will be pretty weak too though. That shit happens when you get old.

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#13 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:10 pm

There is no way there is unused Jane's material. Motherfucker took what was left that he had lyrics for to the first PFP album.

The other shit like San Fransisco/Iris that was an instrumental... well... USED.

Suffer Some used

Kettle Whistle used.

Anything that was fleshed out in soundchecks got a proper recording. Hence why everything on TGEA was all brand new.

And that dumb motherfucker didn't use any of the cool textural tribal stuff that Dave/Perk/Chaney recorded for TGEA.

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#14 Post by elbuitre » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:03 am

Did Embrace the Darkness or the "weird show tune" that Eric spoke of ever surface?

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#15 Post by panicparty » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:19 am

On the out-takes thing, if we're talking about 1.0 wouldn't they need Eric's permission to release anything (unless, I suppose, they did the Ozzy thing and had Chaney re-record the bass)?

I was sure that it came out that Eric had discovered relatively recently that he had veto on exploitation of the old material , and that was why Jane's material had stopped washing up on adverts? Or maybe the veto is only about advertising type stuff and not any releases? Did this emerge recently when Perry did something that had music on that sounded like old Jane's, but wasn't old Jane's?

Given that it seems Eric is pretty much estranged from all three of his former colleagues nowadays I wouldn't be holding out much hope of him okaying any more barrel scraping of stuff he's recorded.

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#16 Post by creep » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:25 pm

here is perry riffing again. it sounds like jane's were fighting again and not talking.

perry says a few times that he dosn't feel like the band (dave) respects him. he is so needy.

anyone want to bet that kind heaven never happens? every interview he talks about his nutty idea. if for some reason it happens i can't see dave being involved.
Question: Do these anniversaries have you feeling reflective?

Answer: Absolutely reflective. However, I have several new projects that are really, really fresh and super creative at the same time we’re doing a 25th-anniversary tour. So even though I’m looking backwards, listening to the material and trying to remember the day, rehearsals have been super fun, going over the album and playing the songs according to the set list. But at the same time, I’m writing new music. And doing both things simultaneously is really taking me back. Because back then, 25 years ago, “Ritual” was being written and then it exploded, you know?

If I weren’t in a writing mode right now, it wouldn’t be half as fun. But I would go so far as to say we’ve created a new platform in entertainment. Immersive entertainment, but we’re doing it in music. So we’re doing that simultaneously with putting the tour together and the band has gotten much closer as a result. Getting back in rehearsals and playing the old songs, at first we actually had a little bit of friction. But playing together for hours on end is bringing us back to that vibe of being creative and music first.

You know, you grow up and you have a family and the idea of a band kind of gets away from you after 25 years. We’ve been one of the very, very, very fortunate groups that still have a beautiful career, to put it as simply as you can. We have a great body of work and a great career. And you continue to build off of it. You don’t rest back on it. If you rest back on it, it can become a little stale. But we’re building a new show around it, kind of recomposing it slightly in certain songs. And it’s been a really good time in life. A 25-year circle. There’s a lot of energy right now in our camp.



Q: It sounds like a healthy environment. So is the show you’re doing at the Arizona State Fair one of those “Ritual” shows?

A: All the shows we’re gonna do, even though some of them are festivals, we’re doing the full album live. That’s what we’re doing. We have a new show for it, new production. New material is being written but you won’t hear it on this tour. You’ll hear the album in its entirety, including maybe half a dozen songs you’ll never hear again. So it’s been fun to practice them and refamiliarize ourselves with some of these songs we haven’t played in 25 years.

Q: Did relearning the ones you hadn’t done in 25 years put you back in touch with the headspace you were in when you made those records?

A: Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, we were originally having a clash. That’s where we were (at the early rehearsals for this tour). We were all clashing. Remember, in ’91, all that happened and at the same time the band broke up. How crazy is that?

Q: It’s very crazy. Was it hard for you to walk away from the band at the height of your fame?

A: Oh, it wasn’t hard at all. It was a very heated camp, you know? Not conducive to making music. I mean, look. You can pin it on me, like, “Why would you do that?” It seems like a really stupid move. I started Porno for Pyros after that, concentrated on Lollapalooza and it opened up gates. Now, I have a new project, “Kind Heaven,” that will come out next year. And if I would have been just in Jane’s Addiction, I doubt we would have gotten to “Kind Heaven.” I’m so, so, so excited about “Kind Heaven.”

I regret, though. You break a band up, people quickly forget about you. It’s amazing. We were riding high, on top of the world, if you think about it, headlining Lollapalooza, the festival we started. We changed the course of music history, really, with alternative music. In comes Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, hip-hop. And then, I just disappeared. I could have used those years, as a careerist, to really establish myself. So that’s what I do regret, is that career-wise, it seemed like it was, like, a suicidal move. But I was a young man and very self-absorbed, I’ll be honest with you. And I just was not getting along with people. So it was like a hell. I really just wanted to be away. And I had confidence that I would be able to continue on with my life.

So I just went with it. And did it damage Jane’s Addiction? Well, it’s taken us 25 years to get to this place where I think we’re gonna get to. So it’s been kind of a wild ride. A bumpy road. The band broke up two times. Three times. Disliked each other. Fought. Wouldn’t talk to each other. Now, we’re really getting on. And things are moving forward. And it’s great because it’s real and honest. There’s no phoniness. No one’s in it because they’re desperate. That’s one good thing that I can say. I tell the guys, “I don’t need to be in Jane’s Addiction anymore. But I must be in Jane’s Addiction because I love Jane’s Addiction.” I love what we created and I really love singing those songs to the world. In my life, this is my luck and my fortune to sing with Jane’s Addiction. I’ve grown up an awful lot and I so appreciate what I’ve got with these guys and what we’ve created together.

Q: You mentioned “Kind Heaven.” Talk about that.

A: It’s an immersive-theater musical. I’m actually building the complex that you’re gonna see. Jane’s is in it. It’s really an interesting project. I’m working with the film industry, the tech industry and the music industry. We’re all converging in Las Vegas. So that’s what’s going on. It’s given us a chance to get back together and make up. And we’re excited about going forward. There was a minute there when everybody was in a crabby mood. To be honest, the music industry is not a healthy place for a musician these days. It’s a very precarious place to be, a precarious business to be in. You don’t have a lot of support. We went from “I’m Led Zeppelin, I’ve got my own private jet” to “I don’t even have a record label,” you know? So we’re trying to make our way through our time in history. How we do it, you’ve got to be really receptive to new ideas and very creative to almost build a place for yourself. That’s why I’m building the complex.

Q: So that’s your outside project but Jane’s Addiction is involved?

A: They’ll be involved in it. We will write music together. But not only. I will collaborate with the best from around the world. That’s the idea. We’re in a constant state of recording and filming and storytelling.

Q: You talked about how much better you guys are getting along at this point. Why do you think that is?

A: We opened up a dialogue. We got together and did a rehearsal but then we had a meeting. And we were not speaking to each other, if I can be honest with you. We had begun to fall back into the rut where we weren’t speaking to each other. I personally had the feeling that I wasn’t being respected and was not appreciated. And I think I was half right. I really do.

But getting back to what changed is we learned to speak. And it actually did a lot of good because it showed us a number of things. They were feeling like I didn’t want to be in the group because I do these other things, but yelling at each other, it comes out that I really want to be in the group and it comes out that I’m upset about this and they’re upset about that. And I say, “Look, here’s where it is right now for us. We have this 25th year. We can certainly break up again. And that’s easy to do. The harder thing to do, just like a marriage, would be to get yourself fit, get yourself in shape, put your effort into your partner and try to make something great out of it, like a family.”

That’s what we did. We should right now be taking a victory lap. Twenty-five years of Lollapalooza and “Ritual.” Go out and claim it and own it. And after that, we can go to do “Kind Heaven.” We’re really in the driver’s seat now. That’s what I expressed to the fellas.

And everybody’s mood changed, even if it took a little while to believe each other. Because I have to be honest with you, a day later, I’m still not completely convinced that I’m appreciated and respected. And I’m sure they feel the same way. But when you show consistency…. We go to rehearsal every day and see each other’s faces smiling with good attitude and respect and reciprocation, there’s that word. That’s where we are right now.

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#17 Post by Artemis » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:11 pm

Even though PF said this in the article, I do not believe Kind Heaven will happen. If it does happen, I think it will be something like We Will Rock You(musical based on Queen songs). I can't see this being Dave or Perk's cup of tea. :noclue:
A: They’ll be involved in it. We will write music together. But not only. I will collaborate with the best from around the world. That’s the idea. We’re in a constant state of recording and filming and storytelling.
The best in musical theatre?? Andrew Lloyd Webber? :lol:

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#18 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:53 pm

They were feeling like I didn’t want to be in the group because I do these other things,
Going on vacation and singing on all-star jam albums is not "other things" that should prevent you from going to band practice.

Every time they post a video of them jamming, you're never there. So no, they shouldn't respect you. You're a part-timer. You don't take Jane's seriously. There is a goddamn keyboard player at their last rehearsal, but no Perry Farrell.

And "immersive entertainment" is not new. You did it with Jane's like 4 fucking years ago. Did you forget already? You're putting on a shitty play, but instead of dialogue it will be shitty techno music and your shitty wife singing while shitty youtube videos play in the background. Jane's is not involved, and we all know it. You most likely conned Dave into sending you some riffs he had laying around, which you chopped up in your Macbook like you did with Another Soulmate. Hell, it's probably that almost-jane's song that we heard in the last Dobel commericial.

This guy is an idiot. Like... I just... I figure at some point I am going to log in here and find out he did something cool. But instead, he's mangling his face with plastic surgery, making shitty house music so his wife can feel like she has a singing career, and posting about his elderly sex life as if anyone wants to hear about it.

Someone put this guy in a home, he's lost his mind.

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#19 Post by kv » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:20 pm

you may need a break from the jane's section for a bit my friend :nod:

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#20 Post by JOEinPHX » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:41 am

No shit. :lol:

It's just a never-ending cycle of...

Us: Make good music
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Play varied setlists
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Sing the song melodies the way you wrote them
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Stop making bad techno
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Stop dragging Jane's into the mud to promote your terrible side projects
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Put out a third Porno For Pyros album
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Put out some classic Jane's live shows on CD/DVD
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Stop letting Etty sing
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Stop letting Etty dance
Perry Farrell: No
Us: Stop ruining your career
Perry Farrell: No

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#21 Post by Larry B. » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:41 am

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They were feeling like I didn’t want to be in the group because I do these other things,
Going on vacation and singing on all-star jam albums is not "other things" that should prevent you from going to band practice.

Every time they post a video of them jamming, you're never there. So no, they shouldn't respect you. You're a part-timer. You don't take Jane's seriously. There is a goddamn keyboard player at their last rehearsal, but no Perry Farrell.

And "immersive entertainment" is not new. You did it with Jane's like 4 fucking years ago. Did you forget already? You're putting on a shitty play, but instead of dialogue it will be shitty techno music and your shitty wife singing while shitty youtube videos play in the background. Jane's is not involved, and we all know it. You most likely conned Dave into sending you some riffs he had laying around, which you chopped up in your Macbook like you did with Another Soulmate. Hell, it's probably that almost-jane's song that we heard in the last Dobel commericial.

This guy is an idiot. Like... I just... I figure at some point I am going to log in here and find out he did something cool. But instead, he's mangling his face with plastic surgery, making shitty house music so his wife can feel like she has a singing career, and posting about his elderly sex life as if anyone wants to hear about it.

Someone put this guy in a home, he's lost his mind.
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#22 Post by Hype » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:25 pm

I actually thought this was a nice interview with a guy who has never interviewed well. I thought the bit about being a naturally very shy person was really interesting, and it totally makes sense. Talking about his siblings and their taste in music was cool too. I'm not interested in his secret project, so I just ignored that section. :lol: There were a few points where he just made no sense at all...

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#23 Post by Kajicat » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:13 pm

I don't come here often anymore, but when I do, I see Six7Six7 is still uncomfortably angry and obsessed with Perry and Etty. I feel like he's on track to one day kidnap and murder them both.

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#24 Post by cricket_bows » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:11 pm

Kajicat wrote: but when I do
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#25 Post by JOEinPHX » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:38 pm

Kajicat wrote:I don't come here often anymore, but when I do, I see Six7Six7 is still uncomfortably angry and obsessed with Perry and Etty. I feel like he's on track to one day kidnap and murder them both.
Yeah, their shitty performances, and my discussion of said shitty performances on a message board set up specifically to discuss such things, indicates i'm soooooooooo dangerous.

You clearly have an advanced psychology degree. Can I please get some feedback on what my half-assed photoshop memes say about my psyche? Thanks. :lol:

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