Ritual Performance

[tubro]

for sure then she did has been a rarity over the years after 1.0 and relapse. (i thought it was the high point of the relapse tour, and probably perry's best song, but i digress.)
but a show where not one of the three long songs are played? i don't recall that ever happening.

[Mescal]

for sure then she did has been a rarity over the years after 1.0 and relapse. (i thought it was the high point of the relapse tour, and probably perry's best song, but i digress.)
but a show where not one of the three long songs are played? i don't recall that ever happening.

Have they ever not played Mountain song?

[intertwoven]

for sure then she did has been a rarity over the years after 1.0 and relapse. (i thought it was the high point of the relapse tour, and probably perry's best song, but i digress.)
but a show where not one of the three long songs are played? i don't recall that ever happening.

Have they ever not played Mountain song?

Pretty rare they don't bust out that tired chestnut, but yes, it's happened. The San Diego relapse show, for one.
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/show/jan ... 12-02/112/

[kv]

relapse, the tour they played been caught stealing only once and missed mountain song prob just that once

[nausearockpig]

Of course they play it almost every show. Think about it from the point of view of the casual concert goer. Not simply someone who either collects bootlegs, is a hardcore fan or wastes time on one of these boards and reminisces for the old days and pines for deep cuts. It's not like most people go to multiple shows, so the band won't want to disappoint people who only see them once per tour of that by not playing their hits.

No brainer really.

[Hokahey]

Of course they play it almost every show. Think about it from the point of view of the casual concert goer. Not simply someone who either collects bootlegs, is a hardcore fan or wastes time on one of these boards and reminisces for the old days and pines for deep cuts. It's not like most people go to multiple shows, so the band won't want to disappoint people who only see them once per tour of that by not playing their hits.

No brainer really.

That's the logic of a band like One Direction.

[intertwoven]

Do you think Radiohead worries about playing "Creep" for their casual fans? Fuck no. If they want to play it, sure, they'll do it. But they do what interests them first. Just an example of what a relevant band does.

[nausearockpig]

Do you think Radiohead worries about playing "Creep" for their casual fans? Fuck no. If they want to play it, sure, they'll do it. But they do what interests them first. Just an example of what a relevant band does.

I think there's a big gap between Radiohead and Jane's Addiction... I don't think Jane's is in the same position as Radiohead.. Not only do they have half the catalogue, the die-hard fans aren't there in the same numbers, the general pull is a lot less and the buzz isn't there.... I get what you're saying, I think the same thing about The Cure (see my many posts on their greatness) but it's apples and oranges.

Of course they play it almost every show. Think about it from the point of view of the casual concert goer. Not simply someone who either collects bootlegs, is a hardcore fan or wastes time on one of these boards and reminisces for the old days and pines for deep cuts. It's not like most people go to multiple shows, so the band won't want to disappoint people who only see them once per tour of that by not playing their hits.

No brainer really.

That's the logic of a band like One Direction.

So you think that Perry & Co stalk these boards and go "Hey Hoka and NRP want to hear Maceo, yeah man that's great, let's play that instead of Mountain Song. Yeah let's do My Time instead of Jane Says too - YEAH!!". Jane's Addiction is in the business of playing their "hits", (or what equates to "hits") so people who go to see them once a tour, come away going "They played 'Coming Down the Mountain' and 'Jane Says' - awesome". Not everyone pores over set list variations and would die for a rendition of Trip Away.

[intertwoven]

Jane's 1.0 only played "Jane Says" about half the time. And that was awesome. Nice treat if you got it, but if you didn't and it bugged you.. fuck you, Jane's doesn't care about you.
When you decide to cater to your casual fans, that's when you become a "state fair/casino" band and are no longer a creative entity.

[nausearockpig]

Jane's 1.0 only played "Jane Says" about half the time. And that was awesome. Nice treat if you got it, but if you didn't and it bugged you.. fuck you, Jane's doesn't care about you.
When you decide to cater to your casual fans, that's when you become a "state fair/casino" band and are no longer a creative entity.

I agree. I reckon they're catering to as many of their most casual fans possible these days.

These RdlH shows will miss their mark I reckon.. Best bet would've been to put aside any silliness with Eric, sign contracts about playing and behaving, plan a big international show where they relentlessly tour XXX, NS & RdlH to be played in their entireities (not a word but you know what I mean), bill the show like something along the lines of Jane's Addiction 1.0 Super Spectacular Seminal Sessions and then return to casino tours later on..

Problems abound with that plan though, mainly that the band can't play for more than one hour, two and a half to three would be too much for them and for their dancers too...... Perry's voice couldn't handle it and egos would no doubt clash on a looong international tour.. Plus the fan base probably wouldn't support a huge tour like that.... oh the dreams.....

[JOEinPHX]

Do you think Radiohead worries about playing "Creep" for their casual fans? Fuck no. If they want to play it, sure, they'll do it. But they do what interests them first. Just an example of what a relevant band does.

Radiohead also is a band who plays music from all their albums.

Aside from Just Because, Jane's still pretends they only have 2 albums.

And they also pretend they have only been a band for 3 years and that an hour long set is ok as a headliner.

And when I say "Jane's", i mean "Perry Farrell", because I'll bet Dave never had a problem with the RHCP 90 minute sets, and I'll bet Chaney did some 2 hour shows with Alanis Morrisette.

I can't vouch for Perk, I have no idea how long Methods of Mayhem played.

[kv]

banyan used to play forever...eric played as long as jane's does now when he had 1 polar bear album to draw from

one of jane's biggest hits is "the barking dogs song" BCS...during the relapse tour (ya know the show for people who missed them the first time around)...they played it ONCE...soooo they give zero fucks...pretty sure "just because" was their best charting single and they don't play that every show like mountain song...superhero? their hit tv show song...hardly ever played..zero fucks given they play what they want and bail...their prerogative to do so...but don't tell me they care

mind you i don't wanna hear a single one of the songs i mentioned...but i can name a bunch i would that they never play...my time, i would for you, of course, la medley, bring the mood*, suffer some, slow divers, kettle whistle, or city! all songs they play prob less then bobhaus (which people treat as this golden gem, the only song they never play...ya right)...hell even the covers rock n roll and sympathy for the devil...though i get why they don't play those, they were album filler to begin with


* as if, just making sure you were reading

[creep]

when was the last time they played something off tgea? you would think they would play at least one song off their latest album.

[Hokahey]

Do you think Radiohead worries about playing "Creep" for their casual fans? Fuck no. If they want to play it, sure, they'll do it. But they do what interests them first. Just an example of what a relevant band does.

I think there's a big gap between Radiohead and Jane's Addiction... I don't think Jane's is in the same position as Radiohead.. Not only do they have half the catalogue, the die-hard fans aren't there in the same numbers, the general pull is a lot less and the buzz isn't there.... I get what you're saying, I think the same thing about The Cure (see my many posts on their greatness) but it's apples and oranges.

Of course they play it almost every show. Think about it from the point of view of the casual concert goer. Not simply someone who either collects bootlegs, is a hardcore fan or wastes time on one of these boards and reminisces for the old days and pines for deep cuts. It's not like most people go to multiple shows, so the band won't want to disappoint people who only see them once per tour of that by not playing their hits.

No brainer really.

That's the logic of a band like One Direction.

So you think that Perry & Co stalk these boards and go "Hey Hoka and NRP want to hear Maceo, yeah man that's great, let's play that instead of Mountain Song. Yeah let's do My Time instead of Jane Says too - YEAH!!". Jane's Addiction is in the business of playing their "hits", (or what equates to "hits") so people who go to see them once a tour, come away going "They played 'Coming Down the Mountain' and 'Jane Says' - awesome". Not everyone pores over set list variations and would die for a rendition of Trip Away.

The reason they don't have real fans at shows is exactly because they think like a pop act now. You're completely missing the big picture here.

[bman]

Dallas 11/6:

Just got out of the Dallas show. Some of you may not believe me. But it was a very damn good show. You know who made it a plus show, Perry. He didn't mess up once. Actually sang pretty damn good.

The place was huge. Sold out. Dallas crowd was actually awesome. Clapping and singing along to the songs. I'm surprised there's still fans out there after reading this board!

Ritual. Plus, Mountain Songs, Ocean Size and Jane Says.

Highlights for me was RITUAL! Stop even sounded great tonight. No ones leaving, Bobhouse...Side two of ritual was great. More later. But great show.

[S&M]

I hope the videos suck so you can eat it BM...Told ya'll it was fun

[nausearockpig]

Do you think Radiohead worries about playing "Creep" for their casual fans? Fuck no. If they want to play it, sure, they'll do it. But they do what interests them first. Just an example of what a relevant band does.

I think there's a big gap between Radiohead and Jane's Addiction... I don't think Jane's is in the same position as Radiohead.. Not only do they have half the catalogue, the die-hard fans aren't there in the same numbers, the general pull is a lot less and the buzz isn't there.... I get what you're saying, I think the same thing about The Cure (see my many posts on their greatness) but it's apples and oranges.

Of course they play it almost every show. Think about it from the point of view of the casual concert goer. Not simply someone who either collects bootlegs, is a hardcore fan or wastes time on one of these boards and reminisces for the old days and pines for deep cuts. It's not like most people go to multiple shows, so the band won't want to disappoint people who only see them once per tour of that by not playing their hits.

No brainer really.

That's the logic of a band like One Direction.

So you think that Perry & Co stalk these boards and go "Hey Hoka and NRP want to hear Maceo, yeah man that's great, let's play that instead of Mountain Song. Yeah let's do My Time instead of Jane Says too - YEAH!!". Jane's Addiction is in the business of playing their "hits", (or what equates to "hits") so people who go to see them once a tour, come away going "They played 'Coming Down the Mountain' and 'Jane Says' - awesome". Not everyone pores over set list variations and would die for a rendition of Trip Away.

The reason they don't have real fans at shows is exactly because they think like a pop act now. You're completely missing the big picture here.

Isn't the point that they should be playing ritual in full each show as PF said they would? But have realised that doing so ain't the money spinner (/ crowd pleaser / venue filler ) that they might've initially thought, or that it is with other, bigger bands so they drop their initial idea and throw in more hits to please the crowd and get more casual fan$ and in doing so anger the 10 people on here that are "true fans"/1.0 stalkers? Not sure the last part is part of their plan but hey, it it sure seems to be the end result..

[bman]

Tonight was actually one of the louder Janes shows I've seen. And unlike most NY crowds where everyone is talking to eachother in the middle of the venues, this Dallas crowd was actually totally into it. Tons of energy. And like I said, Perry got all the songs right. I was worried he might mess up Obvious or Of Course. Everything sounded really good. For a band that is really old, they still fucking rock. And Perkins is a beast plain and simple. I love the Stop intro with the chicks. Best Stop I've heard in a long time. I don't really care for the girlie show going on during Classic Girl. That song really doesn't need any visuals. Perry was into and really focused. He's not running around so much anymore, but clearly is focusing on getting the songs right. So after Ritual it went MNT, then Ocean with the Suspension Chicks. Dave then still had an electric in his hand, but Perry called for Jane Says. So they may have cut a song. I wanted Whores. But they ended on a high note. It really was a good show.

[intertwoven]

Glad to hear it was worth the trip for you. Interested in checking out any recordings.

[nausearockpig]

Glad to hear it was worth the trip for you. Interested in checking out any recordings.

same.

[kv]

ditto but taken with a grain of salt...every bman show perry finds the fountain of youth it was like old times... starting to think bman may have some alcohol or substances problem

[nausearockpig]

ditto but taken with a grain of salt...every bman show perry finds the fountain of youth it was like old times... starting to think bman may have some alcohol or substances problem

Or bman is Perry

[creep]

Tonight was actually one of the louder Janes shows I've seen. And unlike most NY crowds where everyone is talking to eachother in the middle of the venues, this Dallas crowd was actually totally into it. Tons of energy. And like I said, Perry got all the songs right. I was worried he might mess up Obvious or Of Course. Everything sounded really good. For a band that is really old, they still fucking rock. And Perkins is a beast plain and simple. I love the Stop intro with the chicks. Best Stop I've heard in a long time. I don't really care for the girlie show going on during Classic Girl. That song really doesn't need any visuals. Perry was into and really focused. He's not running around so much anymore, but clearly is focusing on getting the songs right. So after Ritual it went MNT, then Ocean with the Suspension Chicks. Dave then still had an electric in his hand, but Perry called for Jane Says. So they may have cut a song. I wanted Whores. But they ended on a high note. It really was a good show.

it does look like they actually put some effort in this show. more energy than the other clips from the other shows.

i hate that guy filming with the tablet more than i hate anyone.

perry does say in the clip " i hope one day to become the ultimate ripoff"....well perry. i have news for you.



obvious...not bad. good job filming it too.



ocean size. not great. can't hear perry.

[Noonesshocking]

That rendition of obvious is so subdued and limp. Very off putting. What is up with these dragging tempos?!

[bman]

No ones Leaving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wVw8WrKI8Y

Then She Did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yn7TkieSso

Of Course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnmo2y2Sazc

Three Days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTYYauhfbzU

Stop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3JdMSnP5-U

Ocean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY-uhfoiIew