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Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:52 am
by SR
Etty tweets will be great too

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:39 pm
by Artemis
I think Perry will theme his outfit accordingly. I think he will wear a mechanics jumpsuit, made of leather or silver lamé. Or, a driver outfit with Coors logo all over.



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Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:47 pm
by Romeo
Artemis wrote:I may be wrong, but I think Indy car races are not so redneck anymore. The crowds seem pretty diverse to me.
When Toronto had the Molson Indy(now Honda Indy) I went a couple of times. It was fun. I liked the pit area the best. I should say, I didn't actually pay for the tickets;they were freebies we got through work.
Oh noooo....
My nephew went down to the races in Dover DE. It was still VERY redneck.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:13 pm
by crater
Artemis wrote:I think Perry will theme his outfit accordingly. I think he will wear a mechanics jumpsuit, made of leather or silver lamé. Or, a driver outfit with Coors logo all over.



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Perry is way ahead of you :lolol:

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Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:45 pm
by Artemis
:lolol: You're right,Crater! I totally forgot about this outfit.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:57 pm
by clickie
The last time i saw Perry in person was walking back to my car after a lakers game. I told him its nice meeting boy george and asked for an autograph .

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:43 pm
by cricket_bows
Heavy stuff from everyone on here; it's why I enjoy this board so much. Mockbee- I really resonate with what you said; I now often wonder how much I (and us) projected how great Perry really was. I'm starting to think it was lightning in a bottle and the drugs. SR, I would love to hear what those people would say, and I'd throw Rollins in there as well; his liner notes for Kettle articulated how much this band meant to me far better than I ever could have. Hank don't mince words; it'd be interesting to hear what he really thinks. Oy.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:58 pm
by Tyler Durden
cricket_bows wrote:Heavy stuff from everyone on here; it's why I enjoy this board so much. Mockbee- I really resonate with what you said; I now often wonder how much I (and us) projected how great Perry really was. I'm starting to think it was lightning in a bottle and the drugs.
I think part of it is that Perry was essentially MARKETED to us as some sort of artistic genius...

On the two Warner albums, he is credited as coproducer along with Dave Jerden? I always thought "really"? And sure, he wrote the lyrics and was in charge of the band's art direction (with Casey)...but judging Jane's on their music, I NEVER for a minute thought that Perry was the "brainchild" behind the band and the other guys just kind of fell in line with him. He wasn't Cobain or Danzig (IE: someone who wrote 95-100% of the output). You could always hear the HUGE influence of the other guys (especially Eric) in the songs and the way they were structured.

The whole "Perry is a genius" angle only got worse when he was pretty much solely credited as creating Lollapalooza (I suppose that's fair) and that he (alone) chose to disband Jane's Addiction in 1991 in order to pursue other artistic endeavours. In reality, Jane's imploded.

On top of that, Perry progressively got more and more magazine covers without a band with him...again, solidifying the idea that was this lone artistic mastermind.

I'm not saying he wasn't a talented guy at one time (and a brilliant self marketer)...but he was a talented guy who had assistance from a circle of very talented people.

We're never going to see Perry sit down in front of an audience and perform on his own with just a guitar or something. :idea:

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:09 pm
by cricket_bows
Absolute gospel, TD, and you brought up a key factor I spaced: Ms. Niccoli. Other people on here have also felt she was a large part of the creativity, and I'd be inclined to agree (I had spaced this http://lonelygirldiaries.tumblr.com out until just now; looks like it fizzled out in August of last year- too bad, as I thought it was enjoyable and had promise).

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:46 pm
by mockbee
cricket_bows wrote:Heavy stuff from everyone on here; it's why I enjoy this board so much. Mockbee- I really resonate with what you said; I now often wonder how much I (and us) projected how great Perry really was. I'm starting to think it was lightning in a bottle and the drugs.
I wouldn't stress about it too much. The world is full of contradictions and crazy misconceptions.

Jane's (beyond Perry) was great, it served its purpose for me and you and everyone else here, and what they "really were" doesn't matter.

Even "Perry Farrell" -- BEYOND the "REAL" Perry Farrell!!!!! ---- was great. He served a purpose for me in my college age youthful confusion and exuberance. He struck a cord so deep in me and made me Yawp and convulse. That was real, who cares who he "really" was. What I felt was real.

That's all that matters. :nod:

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:01 pm
by filthpurveyor
Next thing you know they'll be opening for KISS at Voodoo Fest.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:10 pm
by Tyler Durden
filthpurveyor wrote:Next thing you know they'll be opening for KISS at Voodoo Fest.
At this point, that would be a step up.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:38 pm
by tubro
blackula wrote:I'm debating whether or not I should travel to see this one. I think I'll skip it and wait for the co-headlining show with Molly Hatchet.
hooray that.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:04 am
by Hokahey
Give a few more years and Janes will be the 38 Special on these types of bills.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:08 am
by bman
So what's the payday for something like this?

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:23 pm
by Pandemonium
bman wrote:So what's the payday for something like this?
Purses and shoes for Etty.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:58 pm
by Matz
how is Stephen getting by with the Jane's money alone... :noclue: cuts out coupons a lot I guess

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:07 pm
by creep
Matz wrote:how is Stephen getting by with the Jane's money alone... :noclue: cuts out coupons a lot I guess
maybe his wife has a good job and maybe he doesn't go on 50 vacations a year??

i have a feeling eric's wife must have a good job because he doesn't.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:10 pm
by Matz
right

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:39 pm
by crater
creep wrote:i have a feeling eric's wife must have a good job because he doesn't.
Or maybe playing with Garbage a handful of times every couple of years pays a lot more than any of us realize? :noclue:

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:43 pm
by creep
crater wrote:
creep wrote:i have a feeling eric's wife must have a good job because he doesn't.
Or maybe playing with Garbage a handful of times every couple of years pays a lot more than any of us realize? :noclue:
it probably does but he hasn't played a payed show since 2010 (jane's) has he?

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:47 pm
by creep
actually he did go out with garbage after janes for a while i think

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:51 pm
by blackula
creep wrote:
crater wrote:
creep wrote:i have a feeling eric's wife must have a good job because he doesn't.
Or maybe playing with Garbage a handful of times every couple of years pays a lot more than any of us realize? :noclue:
it probably does but he hasn't played a payed show since 2010 (jane's) has he?
He doesn't need a good job. Besides for all the money he made in the past when Jane's, Alanis and Garbage were relevant, he probably made a few hundred thousand between Ninja and the few festival shows in 2.0.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:51 pm
by crater
This was a recent tweet by him

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Just think, if he had stayed in Jane's Eric could've played his Speed Racer bass at the Indy 500 show.

Re: Jane's and 38 Special

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:17 pm
by SR
I saw garbage open for janes 3 or 4 years ago