POLL: What's WORSE - Another Soulmate or Hot Lava?

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POLL: What's WORSE - "Another Soulmate" or "Hot Lava"?

Another Soulmate (2013)
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71%
Hot Lava (1998)
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29%
 
Total votes: 42

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POLL: What's WORSE - Another Soulmate or Hot Lava?

#1 Post by Kajicat » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:22 pm

Another Soulmate (2013):



Hot Lava (1998):






Personally, I think Hot Lava is much worse. Lyrics on Another Soulmate are pretty bad, but Hot Lava is pathetic. Musically, I'd rather listen to Another Soulmate than Hot Lava, too. Better chorus, more rocking, no DJ scratching, etc. Hot Lava is, incredibly, more cheesy than Another Soulmate. Songs like Underground, Twisted Tales, True Nature, To Match The Sun, etc. are soooooo much better than Hot Lava.

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#2 Post by blackcoffee » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:32 pm

First time i listened to Antother Soulmate all the way through. It reminds me of Superhero for some reason. Seems to tread similar ground. Not as bad as I thought it would be, but I don't want to listen to it again.

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#3 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:37 pm

I give Hot Lava a 1, I can't listen to the song all the way through.

I give Another Soulmate a 2.

Both are lyrical bullshit and Perry should be embarrassed, but at least Another Soulmate kind of rocks.

Another Soulmate is better. Barely.

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Re: POLL: What's WORSE - Another Soulmate or Hot Lava?

#4 Post by Larry B. » Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:54 pm

The thing is Hot Lava isn't even a serious song... it's like judging "Wake Up, Wendy" from the same South Park album (which is a good song, btw.) It was Perry doing something different, something not related to rock, where he is supposed to feel comfortable.

Another Soulmate is a very, very shitty rock song. It's nothing and it's nothing in between nothingness. It's shit.

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#5 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:35 pm

Disregarding Perry and the lyrics, I prefer Hot Lava over Another Soulmate.

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Re: POLL: What's WORSE - Another Soulmate or Hot Lava?

#6 Post by Kajicat » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:36 pm

Wow. 10 votes in and this board is already saying they'd rather listen to Hot Lava than Another Soulmate. Unreal.

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Pandemonium wrote:Disregarding Perry and the lyrics, I prefer Hot Lava over Another Soulmate.
Wait wait wait...that's not part of the deal. You can't disregard certain parts of the songs, you must take them as they are. The complete song, as is. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying the lyrics of Another Soulmate are worse than the lyrics of Hot Lava?

Oh baby, every time we kiss, hot lava
Eveytime we make love, thats lava, hot lava
It's lava so hot it makes me sweat
And lava so warm im gettin wet

Sounds about as bad as a PerryEtty track to me. Again, Another Soulmate's lyrics aren't much better, but sheesh...

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#7 Post by Hokahey » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:17 pm

Kajicat wrote:Wow. 10 votes in and this board is already saying they'd rather listen to Hot Lava than Another Soulmate. Unreal.

EDIT:
Pandemonium wrote:Disregarding Perry and the lyrics, I prefer Hot Lava over Another Soulmate.
Wait wait wait...that's not part of the deal. You can't disregard certain parts of the songs, you must take them as they are. The complete song, as is. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying the lyrics of Another Soulmate are worse than the lyrics of Hot Lava?

Oh baby, every time we kiss, hot lava
Eveytime we make love, thats lava, hot lava
It's lava so hot it makes me sweat
And lava so warm im gettin wet

Sounds about as bad as a PerryEtty track to me. Again, Another Soulmate's lyrics aren't much better, but sheesh...
What point are you trying to make here?

Great. Perry has been making shit music for a long time now. :noclue:

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#8 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:55 pm

hokahey wrote:What point are you trying to make here?

Great. Perry has been making shit music for a long time now. :noclue:
The hell you say!?!

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#9 Post by tvrec » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:57 pm

I voted for "Hot Lava." Sure, it's not a great song but musically its far more interesting than "Another Soulmate" and it's a fucking novelty song to begin with, a tossed away one-off meant to fit in with the slap-stickiness of South Park. "Another Soulmate," on the other hand, is supposedly a Beatles-esque rock song with profound insight about human relationships (neither of which it actually is). It is supposed to be a quality Jane's song. If it had been included on the South Park soundtrack, even to some new movie that came out this summer, I would have evaluated it much differently, thinking it was written as a form of jest. Instead, the song is just a joke. (Basically, what Larry said!)

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#10 Post by Kajicat » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:14 pm

hokahey wrote:
Kajicat wrote:Wow. 10 votes in and this board is already saying they'd rather listen to Hot Lava than Another Soulmate. Unreal.

EDIT:
Pandemonium wrote:Disregarding Perry and the lyrics, I prefer Hot Lava over Another Soulmate.
Wait wait wait...that's not part of the deal. You can't disregard certain parts of the songs, you must take them as they are. The complete song, as is. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying the lyrics of Another Soulmate are worse than the lyrics of Hot Lava?

Oh baby, every time we kiss, hot lava
Eveytime we make love, thats lava, hot lava
It's lava so hot it makes me sweat
And lava so warm im gettin wet

Sounds about as bad as a PerryEtty track to me. Again, Another Soulmate's lyrics aren't much better, but sheesh...
What point are you trying to make here?

Great. Perry has been making shit music for a long time now. :noclue:
My point is people harp on Perry now more than ever due to social media, and the internet in general. If Hot Lava never existed until, say, next month...everyone here would talk about how it's so fucking terrible and Perry has lost it, etc. But it came out in 1998 and it seems like people give it a pass because of that, even though we could talk about how bad Hot Lava is right now on the internet.

Then there's the folk who say well it doesn't matter because it's not under the Jane's Addiction moniker, so it automatically doesn't count. Well, P4P isn't under the Jane's tag either and yet I still love them. PerryEtty isn't under the Jane's moniker yet people here will still care about that and claim Perry's lost it and some might even say it counts in ruining the Jane's legacy. :noclue:

BTW I'm guessing the poll results are going to be skewed because certain people thought they were voting for which song they like better rather than which song is worse.

Anyone who thinks Hot Lava is better than Another Soulmate has very questionable taste as a Jane's fan, IMO.
And saying Hot Lava fits in with the humor of South Park makes very little sense to me. What does South Park have to do with hot lava and lyrics like:

Oh baby, every time we kiss, hot lava
Eveytime we make love, thats lava, hot lava
It's lava so hot it makes me sweat
And lava so warm im gettin wet


South Park is a witty show that also incorporates gross-out humor, but I don't see how Hot Lava has anything to do with it. Hot Lava isn't a funny song at all, whether in the same vein as South Park's brand of humor or not. Something like Master P's "Kenny's Dead" off the same album does a much better job.

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#11 Post by farrellgirl99 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:17 pm

Kajicat wrote:
hokahey wrote:
Kajicat wrote:Wow. 10 votes in and this board is already saying they'd rather listen to Hot Lava than Another Soulmate. Unreal.

EDIT:
Pandemonium wrote:Disregarding Perry and the lyrics, I prefer Hot Lava over Another Soulmate.
Wait wait wait...that's not part of the deal. You can't disregard certain parts of the songs, you must take them as they are. The complete song, as is. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying the lyrics of Another Soulmate are worse than the lyrics of Hot Lava?

Oh baby, every time we kiss, hot lava
Eveytime we make love, thats lava, hot lava
It's lava so hot it makes me sweat
And lava so warm im gettin wet

Sounds about as bad as a PerryEtty track to me. Again, Another Soulmate's lyrics aren't much better, but sheesh...
What point are you trying to make here?

Great. Perry has been making shit music for a long time now. :noclue:
My point is people harp on Perry now more than ever due to social media, and the internet in general. If Hot Lava never existed until, say, next month...everyone here would talk about how it's so fucking terrible and Perry has lost it, etc. But it came out in 1998 and it seems like people give it a pass because of that, even though we could talk about how bad Hot Lava is right now on the internet.

Then there's the folk who say well it doesn't matter because it's not under the Jane's Addiction moniker, so it automatically doesn't count. Well, P4P isn't under the Jane's tag either and yet I still love them. PerryEtty isn't under the Jane's moniker yet people here will still care about that and claim Perry's lost it and some might even say it counts in ruining the Jane's legacy. :noclue:

BTW I'm guessing the poll results are going to be skewed because certain people thought they were voting for which song they like better rather than which song is worse.

Anyone who thinks Hot Lava is better than Another Soulmate has very questionable taste as a Jane's fan, IMO.
And saying Hot Lava fits in with the humor of South Park makes very little sense to me. What does South Park have to do with hot lava and lyrics like:

Oh baby, every time we kiss, hot lava
Eveytime we make love, thats lava, hot lava
It's lava so hot it makes me sweat
And lava so warm im gettin wet


South Park is a witty show that also incorporates gross-out humor, but I don't see how Hot Lava has anything to do with it. Hot Lava isn't a funny song at all, whether in the same vein as South Park's brand of humor or not. Something like Master P's "Kenny's Dead" off the same album does a much better job.
i just did this. i think hot lava is the better song.

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#12 Post by intertwoven » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:36 pm

I love Hot Lava! It's a "cover" of a song fragment from a Season 1 episode of South Park, so it's not like Perry can really be blamed for coming up with it. It's just a fun little song. Reminds me of Kinky from Satellite Party but better. Would've gone great on a 3rd p4p album.. just a silly pop song not too unlike Pets in that regard. It's not far off from Hard Charger either when you think about it.. just missing some nice guitar work that Pete and/or Dave would have brought.

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#13 Post by tvrec » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:45 pm

Dude, if you don't see the difference between a solo novelty song and a new song released to anchor the summer tour of a seminal alternative band, there's very little point to even having the discussion this thread is trying to set up. That distinction is not about a matter of taste, but a difference in genre all together. "The Patience Bossa" is a silly song, too, but one I'd much rather hear than "Another Soulmate." Because it's a kids song, I am not going to try to judge it against the calibre of what Jane's Addiction has been capable of doing. I'll easily concede that I bring different criteria to each, just like I do an Adam Sandler movie and a Wes Anderson one.

Thanks, G. for the clip above too. Helps to bring more context to this ridiculous thread.

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#14 Post by CaseyContrarian » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:23 pm

tvrec wrote:Dude, if you don't see the difference between a solo novelty song and a new song released to anchor the summer tour of a seminal alternative band, there's very little point to even having the discussion this thread is trying to set up. That distinction is not about a matter of taste, but a difference in genre all together. "The Patience Bossa" is a silly song, too, but one I'd much rather hear than "Another Soulmate." Because it's a kids song, I am not going to try to judge it against the calibre of what Jane's Addiction has been capable of doing. I'll easily concede that I bring different criteria to each, just like I do an Adam Sandler movie and a Wes Anderson one.

Thanks, G. for the clip above too. Helps to bring more context to this ridiculous thread.
This.

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#15 Post by sonny » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:41 pm

hot lava is easily better. i love this song. it's like hard charger's little brother. this little phase where perry was actually using live instruments along with some electronic samples/beats was a great time for perry solo.

not all the songs on his solo record from this era are as good, but it's an up period for solo perry. Rev is one my all time favorite perry songs. it stands nicely next to his porno for pyro stuff.

i wouldn't compare any solo perry to jane's addiction, he depends to heavily on his writing partner, whoever that might be at the time. not that he can't just nail a good song by himself, but it's tough for him to consistently put out good songs without a nice writing partner.

it's a god damn shame, when we are basically comparing throw away songs.

it does beg the question what is the worst jane's addiction song? or perry solo song? porno for pyros song?

bring the mood is the worst.

i like 'em big is the worst.

thick of it all is the worst.

so yeah, soulmate isn't as bad as those.

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#16 Post by Kajicat » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:44 pm

intertwoven wrote:I love Hot Lava! It's a "cover" of a song fragment from a Season 1 episode of South Park, so it's not like Perry can really be blamed for coming up with it. It's just a fun little song. Reminds me of Kinky from Satellite Party but better. Would've gone great on a 3rd p4p album.. just a silly pop song not too unlike Pets in that regard. It's not far off from Hard Charger either when you think about it.. just missing some nice guitar work that Pete and/or Dave would have brought.

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Oh, thanks for this. I never knew. Makes more sense now. Still, I'd rather listen to Another Soulmate than Hot Lava. "Comedy music" or whatever does nothing for me. Hell, even Chef's original version of the song isn't even funny to me, and I usually love South Park. Another Soulmate would find its way into my music list much sooner than Hot Lava ever would.

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#17 Post by Matov » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:01 pm

POLL: What's WORSE - Another Soulmate or Hot Lava?
There should be a third option along the lines of "i'd rather fucking die of brain herpes than having to choose between these two songs by the same man who wrote the three days poem".

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#18 Post by Matov » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:03 pm

And also, shitty music was shitty before the internet.
Roxette was shitty.
Another Soulmate is shitty in a Roxette kind of way, not in an Internette kind of way.

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#19 Post by CaseyContrarian » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:21 pm

Fuck, man. Roxette WAS shitty. It's astounding to me that they've achieved some reputation rehabilitation among a small sliver of power-poptards. It's totally fine to worship Split Enz or whatever the girls weren't listening to when you were in high school. But you gotta draw the line somewhere. Roxette is that line.

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#20 Post by trevor ayer » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:37 pm

don't turn around .. unless u wanna see my heart breakin ..

i'll take that over another soulmate anytime

sonny are u on crack? .. u no like "thick of it all"? .. i'll take that over tahitian moon or wishing well

another soulmate deserves extra demerits and a firm flush for the fact that it has 3 original members of what was once the best band EVA!!

the shame .. they should crawl in a hole for 10 years for coming up with this drivel

hot lava is perfectly fun .. stupid lyrics work just fine if delivered properly .. soulmate is nothing but microwaved reheated leftover frozen diet tv dinner

perry's singing didn't suck as bad back then .. he still had a few gems in him .. some of his lyrics didn't suck back then ..

soulmate has nothing going for it at all ..

i even like bring the mood better than soulmate .. btm sounds a bit pfp to me .. i like it better than everything on the last 2 records .. thats not saying much but its something i suppose

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#21 Post by bman » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:19 am

My Cat's Name is Maceo is the worse Janes Song ever. And that was written in what, 86! Please.

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#22 Post by trevor ayer » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:34 am

no way maceo rulez!! stephen told a cool story about maceo parker recording that song

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#23 Post by Larry B. » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:37 am

Was it the story of Perry not paying him any royalties after agreeing to do so? That's a cool story if I ever heard one.

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#24 Post by Kajicat » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:42 am

I actually really like My Cat's Name is Maceo. Always have. But, I'm a cat person so I'm obviously gonna' enjoy it.

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#25 Post by Matz » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:01 am

I like it too, to name it the worst Jane's song ever is bizarre to me. It beats every track on TGEA

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