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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#141 Post by Jasper » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:29 pm

MYXYLPLYX wrote::confused:

But... he's Jewish?
Irving Berlin wrote White Christmas. Mel Tormé co-wrote The Christmas Song (Chestnuts roasting on an open fire...). Mel even recorded an entire Christmas album. So did David Grisman. So did Barbra Streisand. So did Phil Spector, Neil Diamond, Harry Connick Jr., Carole King, Barry Manilow, Bob Dylan, and Kenny G.

Source for the last part of that list:
If there’s anything a Jew knows how to do, it’s embrace a moneymaking opportunity. Even if it does involve selling schmaltz to the goyim.
http://www.jewcy.com/arts-and-culture/t ... _made_jews

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#142 Post by Romeo » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:39 am

we jews are musical people! :banana:










not great athletes but musical

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#143 Post by Essence_Smith » Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:47 am

Pure Method wrote:Sonny,

I do believe people were talking about your "prediction" that this place would crash and burn quickly - one I remember you making - not that this place wouldn't be xiola. But oh well. water under the bridge. :wiggle:
If we continued interacting with one another the way we were doing collectively at the time xiola went down it would have crashed and burned quickly...it was like the east coast west coast rap wars in the 90's over there...somebody woulda got hurt... :lol:
Much better vibes amongst us these days...I thinking watching that board die contributed to that...

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#144 Post by Hype » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:31 am

Romeo wrote:we jews are musical people! :banana:










not great athletes but musical
Yeah that Sandy Koufax was a hell of a violinist. I heard him and Itzhak Perlman do a wicked duet version of Ziguenerweisen one time. :rockon: :lol:

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#145 Post by Romeo » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:26 pm

If you compare the lists of Jewish Athletes to Jewish Musicians


Musicians win


For example:
Jewish Baseball players, current & retired

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... lltoc.html


Jewish American (only) musicians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:J ... _musicians


Boom! :banana:

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#146 Post by Romeo » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:30 pm


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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#147 Post by Essence_Smith » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:35 pm

Hey Romeo...I thought you were only half Jewish? :hs:

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#148 Post by Romeo » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:42 pm

nope.

100% My Maternal grandfather was my only grandparent not born Jewish (Italian Catholic) but he converted to marry my Jewish Grandmother.
Paternal were both Jewish from Russia and Romania

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#149 Post by sonny » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:40 am

Pandemonium wrote:
sonny wrote: in the spirit of discussion, i was extremely disappointed in eric avery's decision to quite NIN. it seemed like a cop-out or a cover for the real reason. sorta like when politicians quit to spend more time with their family. for someone who was so honest about jane's addiction, it seemed like a flimsy reason to quit a challenging role.
I agree to a point. Just going strictly on what was said by Eric and Reznor, I think Trent reached out to him when Reznor first decided to put together a touring band and Eric didn't think it through and agreed before knowing or understanding the full scope both musically and logistically what the tour would encompass. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that basic explanation fits Erics typical lifetime MO - meaning he bails at his convenience, he doesn't stick around a gig for months or years past his time he feels he's done with it. Looking at how the current band presents itself live, I don't think Eric would have been a good fit unlike if he had been a part of NIN in any of the last decade's lineups.
I personally would like avery to step out of his controlling comfort zone and this would've been a good opportunity. I can see what he wanted to, i can also see a half dozen reasons why he couldn't do it. the stage lights being the obvious one.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#150 Post by sonny » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:50 am

Pure Method wrote:Sonny,

I do believe people were talking about your "prediction" that this place would crash and burn quickly - one I remember you making - not that this place wouldn't be xiola. But oh well. water under the bridge. :wiggle:
i seem to remember saying it wouldn't last more than a few months or possibly, it wouldn't be here "this time next year". i can't remember exactly and i may have said multiple things that predicted different downfalls for this message board.

it is still here, whether it's as relevant as xiola.org, is what i was addressing recently.

i thought more folks came to xiola.org and this site for jane's addiction discussions, but clearly i was wrong about that. i thought with fewer JA discussions, fewer people would show up. i was wrong about that as well.

it's not xiola.org, it's different and ANR works for more people than i ever thought it would.

my original prediction was more about trying to relay how hard i worked on xiola.org to be a relevant jane's addiction site and that it couldn't just be moved to a new domain under different management and be the same. xiola.org as a site, meant something to me once, but on reflection i can only say it looks like a huge waste of time which is all on me.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#151 Post by SR » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:57 am

In the end, it was the band who made it a waste of time. I didn't always agree with your decisions over there, but you laid some real inroads to credibility with the interview and other things. :rockon: Really, anyone who runs these boards should get some credit as it's just a place to gather for some really good people with diverse backstories and a few dimwit punks. I get real weary with the comparisons; sometimes we just need to get out of the sandbox.

:oldtimer:

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#152 Post by sonny » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:12 am

SR wrote:In the end, it was the band who made it a waste of time. I didn't always agree with your decisions over there, but you laid some real inroads to credibility with the interview and other things. :rockon: Really, anyone who runs these boards should get some credit as it's just a place to gather for some really good people with diverse backstories and a few dimwit punks. I get real weary with the comparisons; sometimes we just need to get out of the sandbox.

:oldtimer:
i agree, the comparisons aren't always fair. some of it's the era. i just know i worked hard to keep things interesting. i worked hard to talk to band members or people related to them without being compromised by that contact. i even worked hard working out a concise amount of boards to discuss things. whether we needed a whole new section for a specific discussion is something i watched and worked on for years to get just the right amount of sections to discuss stuff, so it's not too many or that one section is too broad or too many threads. i worked on themes, colors, the right width of the board so most people could view it.

the titles of the sections. i spent a good bit of time just working on which smilies would work, which ones weren't being used, so you didn't have to sort through hundreds of smilies.

i tried a lot of different stuff over the years that people just do now. erik and mike included, just cop what i did and make it their own shit.

maybe i belly ached over the small stuff more than i should have, but i think it made for a good experience.

the progress is just passed along. all the work erik and mike just copied from my site and gavin's site and various others is just used without regard. someone could easily grab the info from erik and mike's site and use it for yet another JA site and they just might feel the way i do about all those years of gathering jane's addiction shit to share with folks and now anyone can grab that hard work, put it up and say "look how easy it is to run a jane's addiction site, he's just bitter that it's so easy for us to do". yeah, it's easy, because the grunt work has been done for the last decade by other folks.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#153 Post by SR » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:30 am

Never occurred to me. As a dinosaur member, and a remedial computer person, I just never thought about the minutia. Financial burdens I understand, so when that issue comes up, I try to step up a bit though.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#154 Post by Juana » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:41 am

SR wrote:Never occurred to me. As a dinosaur member, and a remedial computer person, I just never thought about the minutia. Financial burdens I understand, so when that issue comes up, I try to step up a bit though.
I agree here.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#155 Post by SR » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:53 am

Juana wrote:
SR wrote:Never occurred to me. As a dinosaur member, and a remedial computer person, I just never thought about the minutia. Financial burdens I understand, so when that issue comes up, I try to step up a bit though.
I agree here.
I'll wager you're better with these machines.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#156 Post by Juana » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:14 am

Honestly I'm not, I just use Google and find some kid's Youtube of how to computer and learn that way. I'm good with recording software and POS type software because I have to be but the rest of this.. I get pissed and use Google like everyone else :lolol:

But honestly the web, I have learned all kinds of cool shit on the web.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#157 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:45 am

Juana wrote:Honestly I'm not, I just use Google and find some kid's Youtube of how to computer and learn that way. I'm good with recording software and POS type software because I have to be but the rest of this.. I get pissed and use Google like everyone else :lolol:

But honestly the web, I have learned all kinds of cool shit on the web.
I learned how to install a toilet.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#158 Post by creep » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:50 pm

sonny wrote:
my original prediction was more about trying to relay how hard i worked on xiola.org to be a relevant jane's addiction site and that it couldn't just be moved to a new domain under different management and be the same. xiola.org as a site, meant something to me once, but on reflection i can only say it looks like a huge waste of time which is all on me.
i think i can speak for hoka too...we put absolutely zero work and effort in this site. :tiphat:

it's just a message board where a bunch of people that once had something in common ended up. that's it. i don't think either of us ever wanted to make it anything more.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#159 Post by sonny » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:23 am

creep wrote:
sonny wrote:
my original prediction was more about trying to relay how hard i worked on xiola.org to be a relevant jane's addiction site and that it couldn't just be moved to a new domain under different management and be the same. xiola.org as a site, meant something to me once, but on reflection i can only say it looks like a huge waste of time which is all on me.
i think i can speak for hoka too...we put absolutely zero work and effort in this site. :tiphat:

it's just a message board where a bunch of people that once had something in common ended up. that's it. i don't think either of us ever wanted to make it anything more.
i completely understand. it's a smart way to do things. again, with hindsight i wish i had been less involved, but i'm not sure it would've lasted or been near as interesting considering the subjects we were covering.

it's hard to relay an experience from my point of view. my fault.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#160 Post by kv » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:58 am

naw thats a fair point back in xiola's heyday it was way more about jane's then it is now (obviously) but i also remember a point when 1% was the site for jane's and xiola was the fun hangout...so everything cycles


good to see you posting with your six shooters in their holsters :tiphat:

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#161 Post by Juana » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:56 am

I think Sonny was definitely in it for the love of the band. Personally I honestly stopped caring as much about them after the split after Strays. I have come to enjoy the banter about other stuff much more than the husk that JA became.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#162 Post by SR » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:33 pm

From afar (fb, here), dude's like a teddy bear......good family, friends, conscious of fair treatment......but then can strike like a rattler. :lol:

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#163 Post by CaseyContrarian » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:26 pm

sonny wrote:
SR wrote:In the end, it was the band who made it a waste of time. I didn't always agree with your decisions over there, but you laid some real inroads to credibility with the interview and other things. :rockon: Really, anyone who runs these boards should get some credit as it's just a place to gather for some really good people with diverse backstories and a few dimwit punks. I get real weary with the comparisons; sometimes we just need to get out of the sandbox.

:oldtimer:
i agree, the comparisons aren't always fair. some of it's the era. i just know i worked hard to keep things interesting. i worked hard to talk to band members or people related to them without being compromised by that contact. i even worked hard working out a concise amount of boards to discuss things. whether we needed a whole new section for a specific discussion is something i watched and worked on for years to get just the right amount of sections to discuss stuff, so it's not too many or that one section is too broad or too many threads. i worked on themes, colors, the right width of the board so most people could view it.

the titles of the sections. i spent a good bit of time just working on which smilies would work, which ones weren't being used, so you didn't have to sort through hundreds of smilies.

i tried a lot of different stuff over the years that people just do now. erik and mike included, just cop what i did and make it their own shit.

maybe i belly ached over the small stuff more than i should have, but i think it made for a good experience.

the progress is just passed along. all the work erik and mike just copied from my site and gavin's site and various others is just used without regard. someone could easily grab the info from erik and mike's site and use it for yet another JA site and they just might feel the way i do about all those years of gathering jane's addiction shit to share with folks and now anyone can grab that hard work, put it up and say "look how easy it is to run a jane's addiction site, he's just bitter that it's so easy for us to do". yeah, it's easy, because the grunt work has been done for the last decade by other folks.
This is called running a website. And maybe having a smidge of ADD or HFA (co-presentations are common, though only the latter is neuropatypical). Anyway, to do it well does require a huge amount of attention to detail, and to bring soul to it--which I think was Sonny's game--necessitates a bit more than just coding and aesthetics, the majority of which is at the disposal of a marginally-sophisticated eight year-old.

We have the board we have for the times we have.

Salut to Sonny for his contributions, integrity and vision. I'm so glad to hear from him, even as a decade+ lurker who only found his balls here.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#164 Post by Larry B. » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:39 pm

Larry B. wrote:I used to visit this awesome Green Day board and it was awesome. Everyone was awesome, basically because Green Day was awesome, much better than many other bands, especially NIN and Van Halen (just to name a few.) Billie Joe Armstrong is a makeup genius.

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I'm baffled by this post. Why did I say that? It's got nothing to do with anything.

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Re: Your favorite "Eric and Handsome Mike" encounters

#165 Post by JOEinPHX » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:10 pm

I'm baffled by why you bumped a 4 year old thread. haha :lol:

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