The official "The Great Escape Artist" thread

[JOEinPHX]

I am interested to know which ones were written when Duff was briefly in the band too. We know for sure that 'Broken People' was one of them but beyond guessing, does anyone know the other two?

The tracks written with Duff are:

- Broken People
- Words Right Out of My Mouth
- Ultimate Reason

http://www.billboard.com/news/inside-th ... 5212.story

Those are the 3 songs i like the least.

Damn you Duff.

[kv]

ahh was wondering which were duffs, ya duff sucks!

[JOEinPHX]

i seriously have no problems with the other 7 songs on the album. Those are the 3 i skip.

They should have kicked Duff out sooner.

[nausearockpig]

i seriously have no problems with the other 7 songs on the album. Those are the 3 i skip.

They should have kicked Duff out sooner.

But Duff was such a seamless fit.

But they and duff grew up together.

But it's a natural thing for them to play together

But it's so exciting to come into a band and learn new songs and fit right in.

[Jasper]

I didn't want to like it, but Ultimate Reason turned out to be a pretty great track, despite the fact that it's got a very pop kind of chorus, and some lame lyrics in the chorus as well - specifically the "she's right here beside me" part. That's just way too obvious and cliche sounding and uninteresting. Sure, it may be true, but it's more like a Brian Adams lyric or something.

Otherwise the song is pretty cool, because it's catchy, it's got some of the long-missing Eastern spice, and there are a lot of interesting musical details.

[Pure Method]

Top 3
Underground
Hit you back
Broken People/Ultimate reason

[LJF]

ok so, I'm back at it tonight. As I said last night sometimes it takes a few listens for me to get into a cd. So on the 3rd go thru, I'm liking it better, still think it is rather standard fare, but I'll take it. It starts strong and then kinda fades the last 3 songs.

I still like the sound to be a little less polished and I like my Jane's a little more primal, but it could be worse. The first 3 cd's will still get the most play, but there are a few songs on here that could get heavier rotation in my house. The first 4-5 songs are the best IMO.

Now onto the 4th listen.

[Pandemonium]

I have to say, the more I listen to it, the less I like it. IMO, there's about 4 tracks that are worth a damn.

[LJF]

I have to say, the more I listen to it, the less I like it. IMO, there's about 4 tracks that are worth a damn.

clearly not up to the old Jane's standard, but as a pure "rock" cd it has it's moments. You're right about 4-5 good songs. I'm in a good mood so that will also make this seem better to me.

[imail724]

Hit You Back and Broken People are my two least favorite, still like them better than most of Strays though. Love the album though.

Ps. Flac leaked

[creep]

dave said that they are going to be playing underground live from now on and hopefully more. they will also be on letterman the 24th.

[JOEinPHX]

dave said that they are going to be playing underground live from now on and hopefully more. they will also be on letterman the 24th.

He also said he wrote the bass on Curiosity, Twisted, and others.

Navarro & Sitek split Keys 50/50 on the record. Said he used keys in places he normally would have played guitar, and that the minimalist approach to the guitar on the album was what he set out to do.

[creep]

dave said that they are going to be playing underground live from now on and hopefully more. they will also be on letterman the 24th.

He also said he wrote the bass on Curiosity, Twisted, and others.

Navarro & Sitek split Keys 50/50 on the record. Said he used keys in places he normally would have played guitar, and that the minimalist approach to the guitar on the album was what he set out to do.

i also thought it was interesting that chaney redid all bass parts.....just like strays.

[JOEinPHX]

He probably made them a little fancier.

[Warped]

Except for Words right out of my mind i like all the tracks on the album. Ultimate reason is a great song and i liked Broken people from the first listening. So not really a problem with the Duff ones.

Surprisingly i totally love ETTL now, this song is a sonic monster.

And still my fave is Splash a little water.

[Deconstruction]

Played Underground and Words for my guitarist tonight and he loved them, he doesn't often say that. He's not a die hard Jane's fan either, more casual.

[Deconstruction]

Also I love 2/3 of the Duff tracks, and Ultimate Reason is okay. Shit Words and Broken People are two of my favorites on the album.

[leviticus]

Hit You Back and Broken People are my two least favorite, still like them better than most of Strays though. Love the album though.

After about a dozen good listens, I agree 100%.

[Warped]

amazon just sent the mail that the cd has been shipped, so i'll get it tomorrow.

[rockout]

Here's my take after two listens:

1. Underground: Well produced but weak verse riff. Chorus is great. Nice perk percussion breakdown. Favorite track on the album.
2. End to the Lies: Excellent, ambitious guitar layering.
3. Curiosity Kills: Song Yet to Be Sung vocals on verse. The chorus is bad on two levels: pop harmonics & yet fails to settle on a hook. I love the clean guitar sound on the breakdown, but the guitar solo is boring. Song not worth the effort in producing.
4. Irresistible Force: Love the Robert Smith intro to the chorus, the only-guitar part. I also love the breakdown (sounds like a guitar, I’m not sure), but the guitar solo sounds like it should come from an action scene in Braveheart. Cheesy. Overall, some interesting sonic textures, but a boring song.
5. I’ll Hit You Back: Siouxsie sounding, fun verse. Thick, rocking texture on guitar chorus. Love Perry on the chorus. This song grew on me in the course of my first listen. Vying for my favorite track with Underground.
6. Twisted Tales: Depeche Mode synth beginning. Perry on the verse is the only interesting element. Chorus is boring. Song doesn’t really land. Breakdown is totally uninspired. Jesus guys, how does it work that you’re talented enough to come up with amazing music, but you listen to something so pedestrian as the breakdown, and you think—‘okay, that’s good enough’.
7. Ultimate Reason: Garage song. Could do without the big production. Then it would be more honest. Honestly sucky.
8. Splash a Little Water On It: Initial guitar—White Lion, When the Children Cry. Guitar solo is cock rock. Song not good, or very interesting.
9. Broken people. Sounds like everyone is drunk and hugging. Guess that’s okay. Could turn annoying. Maybe a little too simple.
10. Words Right Out of My Mouth: Moronic.

[Artemis]

3. Curiosity Kills: Song Yet to Be Sung vocals on verse. The chorus is bad on two levels: pop harmonics & yet fails to settle on a hook. I love the clean guitar sound on the breakdown, but the guitar solo is boring. Song not worth the effort in producing.

The chorus is the reason I can't stand this song. It's a song I would skip over.

[nausearockpig]

I just bought the double CD.

For anyone in Australia, JB HiFi has it for $24.99, single is $19.99... the section of the insert where the credits are is a little hard to read.

There's no mention of Duff in the main credits bit though he's mentioned on Ultimate Reason, Broken People and Words Right Out Of My Mouth...
Pic in the middle is OK, it's Jane's...

Inside pic a shot of "the band" with Dave and Perry looking up at the mother ship, Chaney looks like he's living the good life and Stephen looks like his sunnies are painted on. gold..

There's a "Thanks" section from Perry, Dave, Stephen and The Band.. soooooo.... Chris is "in the band" but not in the band when it comes to having his own "Thanks" section... lol

[leviticus]

3. Curiosity Kills: Song Yet to Be Sung vocals on verse. The chorus is bad on two levels: pop harmonics & yet fails to settle on a hook. I love the clean guitar sound on the breakdown, but the guitar solo is boring. Song not worth the effort in producing.

The chorus is the reason I can't stand this song. It's a song I would skip over.

One of my top three

[Pandemonium]

Inside pic a shot of "the band" with Dave and Perry looking up at the mother ship, Chaney looks like he's living the good life and Stephen looks like his sunnies are painted on. gold..

The "mothership?" WTF?!?

[JOEinPHX]

Inside pic a shot of "the band" with Dave and Perry looking up at the mother ship, Chaney looks like he's living the good life and Stephen looks like his sunnies are painted on. gold..

The "mothership?" WTF?!?

Shhhhh, ignore. Just listen to the music.