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#26 Post by Hype » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:33 pm

I haven't enjoyed anything Maynard has done since Lateralus. The first APC album was *okay*, but fairly boring. And because he can't sing the way he used to either, that seems like a totally sideways move.

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#27 Post by kv » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:01 pm




without eric though....would be epic and wopuld never happen it's just random mb dribbling...fun to imagine

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#28 Post by kv » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:03 pm

Adurentibus Spina wrote:I haven't enjoyed anything Maynard has done since Lateralus. The first APC album was *okay*, but fairly boring. And because he can't sing the way he used to either, that seems like a totally sideways move.
amazed how much i agree with your music views.....at times lol

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#29 Post by Hype » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:24 pm

kv wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:I haven't enjoyed anything Maynard has done since Lateralus. The first APC album was *okay*, but fairly boring. And because he can't sing the way he used to either, that seems like a totally sideways move.
amazed how much i agree with your music views.....at times lol
I think we'd get along well in person, too.

It's just aspects of "online Hype" that bothers you. Well, no matter. We can be "music taste buddies" and hate each other the rest of the time. :lol:

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#31 Post by blackula » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:34 pm

bman wrote:Butthole Surfers and JAnes would be a killer tour. Please stop trying to put together super groups. Jane's members without eachother suck. Dave NEEDS Perry and vice versa. Otherwise it's just camp freddy and no one cares.
Dude. Jane's still brings it live. I agree, we've been at a lot of the same shows. The shitty part is that after Kettle Whistle they put out crappy records. Butthole Surfers on the other hand do not put out new records and only play sporadically. When they do play though, the last 3 NY shows going back to 2009 have been chaos. Gibby got thrown out of Webster Hall during the set for throwing a beer bottle at the sound guy for fucking up his vocal mix. The next show at Warsaw was vintage, it was like watchng Blind Eye Sees All, and New Years 10-11 was awesome. They play 20 or so songs, they mix up the set lists, and Gibby is still an unpredictable frontman.

If Eric, Stephen, and Dave covered Who Was In My Room Last Night with Gibby, then, yeah, camp freddy. If those dudes wrote a record together I would be psyched to hear it.

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#32 Post by kv » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:03 pm

Adurentibus Spina wrote:
kv wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:I haven't enjoyed anything Maynard has done since Lateralus. The first APC album was *okay*, but fairly boring. And because he can't sing the way he used to either, that seems like a totally sideways move.
amazed how much i agree with your music views.....at times lol
I think we'd get along well in person, too.

It's just aspects of "online Hype" that bothers you. Well, no matter. We can be "music taste buddies" and hate each other the rest of the time. :lol:
naw i have no prob with you you grew up

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#33 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:42 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:I haven't enjoyed anything Maynard has done since Lateralus. The first APC album was *okay*, but fairly boring. And because he can't sing the way he used to either, that seems like a totally sideways move.
You don't like the new Puscifer record? I thought it was great.

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#34 Post by Hype » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:10 pm

Puscifer is okay... I find it kinda boring...

The extended intro to this song, for instance, is far more interesting than the song, which has no character to it at all:

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#35 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:41 pm

Believe it or not, there are better songs on the record than the single.

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#36 Post by Hype » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:42 pm

Six7Six7 wrote:Believe it or not, there are better songs on the record than the single.
I've heard them. Meh. :noclue:

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#37 Post by bman » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:56 pm

I have no faith in DN, SP, or EA without Perry. Sorry. And, trust me, if there was this amazing magic between them and it was just PF holding them back, they would have bailed on him in a heartbeat. The fact of the matter is, is that no one cares about those guys without the name JANE's attached to it. and no one buys records anymore. If Gibby and those 3 went on tour they'd be playing to 250 people every night.

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#38 Post by Juana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:48 pm

I have faith in DN as a guitar player its not like he forgot how to play, Perk can still drum, Eric can still write. What can Perry still do? The amount of people they're playing to has nothing to do with it unless they only have the band together for a complete cash grab, if that is the case why bother making new music?

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#39 Post by Hype » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:58 pm

Juana wrote:I have faith in DN as a guitar player its not like he forgot how to play, Perk can still drum, Eric can still write. What can Perry still do? The amount of people they're playing to has nothing to do with it unless they only have the band together for a complete cash grab, if that is the case why bother making new music?
The problem is that the history of these musicians isn't really a history of making music *just* because they love to create music and perform it for any sized crowd. They're no Nick Cave or Mike Watt... EA is the most respectable as far as this goes, with Polar Bear and then the solo record, but even that just wasn't really the same kinda thing.

I don't expect it from em anymore. It's all good.

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#40 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:11 pm

Juana wrote:I have faith in DN as a guitar player its not like he forgot how to play, Perk can still drum, Eric can still write.
Yep.
Juana wrote: What can Perry still do?
Lose his voice 3 songs into the set on the first show of the tour, drink champagne in the back of a limo, pay for outrageously-priced handbags, shill tequila

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#41 Post by Matz » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:06 pm

Adurentibus Spina wrote:
Juana wrote:I have faith in DN as a guitar player its not like he forgot how to play, Perk can still drum, Eric can still write. What can Perry still do? The amount of people they're playing to has nothing to do with it unless they only have the band together for a complete cash grab, if that is the case why bother making new music?
The problem is that the history of these musicians isn't really a history of making music *just* because they love to create music and perform it for any sized crowd. They're no Nick Cave or Mike Watt... EA is the most respectable as far as this goes, with Polar Bear and then the solo record, but even that just wasn't really the same kinda thing.

I don't expect it from em anymore. It's all good.
I agree and I don't expect more either. It is kind of sad that none of these guys have that Frusciante or Prince gene that makes them want to produce music a lot of time. But they've given us an impressive quality body of work (original Jane's, Porno, One hot minute, Decon, Spread etc), so let's be happy about that and accept the fact that rock musicians fade.

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#42 Post by Romeo » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:40 am

bman wrote:I have no faith in DN, SP, or EA without Perry. Sorry. And, trust me, if there was this amazing magic between them and it was just PF holding them back, they would have bailed on him in a heartbeat. The fact of the matter is, is that no one cares about those guys without the name JANE's attached to it. and no one buys records anymore. If Gibby and those 3 went on tour they'd be playing to 250 people every night.
Yes because this last record proved PF is clearly the strongest link.


"you were the foreskin, I was the real head" will definitely go down as a classic





:no:

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#43 Post by Hype » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:00 am

Romeo wrote:
bman wrote:I have no faith in DN, SP, or EA without Perry. Sorry. And, trust me, if there was this amazing magic between them and it was just PF holding them back, they would have bailed on him in a heartbeat. The fact of the matter is, is that no one cares about those guys without the name JANE's attached to it. and no one buys records anymore. If Gibby and those 3 went on tour they'd be playing to 250 people every night.
Yes because this last record proved PF is clearly the strongest link.


"you were the foreskin, I was the real head" will definitely go down as a classic





:no:
It's a hilariously bad line because it means Perry's calling himself a dickhead. :nod:

It's the exact opposite of clever/ironic/good writing. Unlike the lyrics to "Of Course", which are spectacular.

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#44 Post by bman » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:35 am

Who cares. I doubt they will make another record. After this tour Im sure theyll continue just mailing it in at some festival shows here and there. For a band with 5 albums of music to choose from, the fact that they really Never ever change up sets is pretty fuckin lame. I saw Wilco twice this week in Brooklyn. Two hour sets everynight, different sets every night. Jane's was once a great band. They still put on a fantastic show. But they are no where close to being the great American rock band that Wilco is.

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#45 Post by Hype » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:50 am

I tried to like Wilco... but why do they have to be so boring? :lol:

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#46 Post by bman » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:56 am

I've seen Wilco about 15 times. Flawless live. It's almost sick how it sounds like CD. Jeff Tweedy is the new Neil Young. These Brooklyn shows got my love for them going again. I hadn't seen them in a few years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfOQ5Rml0LM

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#47 Post by Hype » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:06 pm

... if they sound like their CDs live, that's even less of a reason for me to want to see them. :lol: I really wanted to like them. I remember when Yankee Hotel Foxtrot came out and the hipster douches at the radio station I worked at were obsessed... I played all the tracks on that album over and over and never got it... I still don't get it.

This album came out around the same time and just blows Wilco out of the water as far as being... interesting... goes:

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#49 Post by Hype » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:16 pm

I don't know what to tell you, man... it sounds like easy listening country pop schlock. :conf:

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#50 Post by bman » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:19 pm

Why can't Janes do stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAKTCeE ... re=related

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