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[JOEinPHX]

what if an album has 16 songs?

Then do the fucking math.

13/16 good songs would be 81.25%

8/10

4 stars out of 5

16 oranges out of 20

Is this really a hard concept?

[creep]

what if an album has 16 songs?

Then do the fucking math.

13/16 good songs would be 81.25%

8/10

4 stars out of 5

16 oranges out of 20

Is this really a hard concept?

well what if an album has 20 songs and you like 11 of the songs? that would be 55%. do you rate that a five or a six?

[JOEinPHX]

half points have always been acceptable on rating scales.

[Hype]

This still misses the point. These numbers measure how many songs you like on an album... that doesn't tell you anything about whether you like one song more than another across albums, or whether you like one album more than another. (Hell, it doesn't even tell you whether you like one song more than another among the songs you like on an album... which is just stupid...)

I might like more songs on Ritual than I do on NS... even as a ratio... but I might think NS is the better album...

Six7Six7's method is a kind of weird quasi-Asperger's failure to understand what you're even trying to measure/compare in the first place.

[creep]

how would you rate jethro tull's album "thick as a brick" it's one 44 minute track. it's either a 0 or a 10. that's just not fair.

[Hype]

how would you rate jethro tull's album "thick as a brick" it's one 44 minute track. it's either a 0 or a 10. that's just not fair.

"I like that song. Therefore, 10. Yeah. Definitely 10."

[JOEinPHX]

This still misses the point. These numbers measure how many songs you like on an album... that doesn't tell you anything about whether you like one song more than another across albums, or whether you like one album more than another. (Hell, it doesn't even tell you whether you like one song more than another among the songs you like on an album... which is just stupid...)

I might like more songs on Ritual than I do on NS... even as a ratio... but I might think NS is the better album...

Six7Six7's method is a kind of weird quasi-Asperger's failure to understand what you're even trying to measure/compare in the first place.

i see your point.

If only, some day, there were journalists who specialized in music and wrote columns along with their rating, describing various musical textures and lyrical content so we can understand just why a score was given.

One of these days, someone should invent that. Some sort of "music journalist" or something like that. Maybe even create magazines and websites based around it.

[JOEinPHX]

how would you rate jethro tull's album "thick as a brick" it's one 44 minute track. it's either a 0 or a 10. that's just not fair.

i'd give it a 0 because that's just a fucking stupid ass thing to do. And the band's name sucks.

[Hype]

This still misses the point. These numbers measure how many songs you like on an album... that doesn't tell you anything about whether you like one song more than another across albums, or whether you like one album more than another. (Hell, it doesn't even tell you whether you like one song more than another among the songs you like on an album... which is just stupid...)

I might like more songs on Ritual than I do on NS... even as a ratio... but I might think NS is the better album...

Six7Six7's method is a kind of weird quasi-Asperger's failure to understand what you're even trying to measure/compare in the first place.

i see your point.

If only, some day, there were journalists who specialized in music and wrote columns along with their rating, describing various musical textures and lyrical content so we can understand just why a score was given.

One of these days, someone should invent that. Some sort of "music journalist" or something like that. Maybe even create magazines and websites based around it.

The fact that other people have more well-thought out methods doesn't excuse how stupid the method was that you claim to have used to give TGEA 7/10.

[JOEinPHX]

You act as though TGEA is a new album and this is the first time it's being discussed.

We had a nice 40 page thread back when it was released if you'd like to go back and read my full review for the album song by song.

But i'm not planning on typing out 6 paragraphs about the album every time people start discussing it again.

To generalize, 7/10

If you want specifics, figure out where the search feature on this board is and put it to use.

[Hype]

The scale should really be something more like this:


0 = Will never list to this album again / 5 = Meh. I'd listen to it if someone put it on, but I wouldn't choose it myself. / 10 = Among my favourite albums of all time.
|---------------1---------------2---------------3---------------4---------------5---------------6---------------7---------------8---------------9---------------|

Hence my rankings:
XXX - 7/10
NS - 10/10
Ritual - 9.85/10
Strays - 4/10
TGEA - 3.75/10

According to this scale, is TGEA really a 7/10 for you, Six7Six7?

[Bandit72]

Am I the only person on here who prefers Ritual to NS?

[JOEinPHX]

According to my own iTunes ratings it's only even a 6.2/10 if you average the stars.





So my listening habits dictate that it's only really a 6. Rather than a 7.

But that is still way higher than the 3.25 that you're giving it.

[Hype]

According to my own iTunes ratings it's only even a 6.2/10 if you average the stars.





So my listening habits dictate that it's only really a 6. Rather than a 7.

But that is still way higher than the 3.25 that you're giving it.

I asked what you'd give it... according to the scale I provided above, in which 0 = Will never list to this album again, 5 = Meh. [You]'d listen to it if someone put it on, but [you] wouldn't choose it [your]self, and 10 = Among [your] favourite albums of all time.

Is it really halfway between Meh and Favourite of all time? Is it really higher up on the scale than Meh?!

Also, I gave it 3.75... not 3.25... maybe your hearing is as bad as your vision?

[JOEinPHX]

it would be between a 6 and a 7.

I'd put it on myself, but i'd skip certain songs.

3-4 of the songs in fact.

Which is indicated not only by my 9 previous statements as such, but also by the visual that i gave you showing my exact ratings and plays of those songs.

I can't be any more transparent here.

[Hokahey]

Am I the only person on here who prefers Ritual to NS?

I do too.

[Hype]

it would be between a 6 and a 7.

I'd put it on myself, but i'd skip certain songs.

3-4 of the songs in fact.

Which is indicated not only by my 9 previous statements as such, but also by the visual that i gave you showing my exact ratings and plays of those songs.

I can't be any more transparent here.

Okay. Well, that just totally explains why you like STP. Carry on.

[JOEinPHX]

it would be between a 6 and a 7.

I'd put it on myself, but i'd skip certain songs.

3-4 of the songs in fact.

Which is indicated not only by my 9 previous statements as such, but also by the visual that i gave you showing my exact ratings and plays of those songs.

I can't be any more transparent here.

Okay. Well, that just totally explains why you like STP. Carry on.

The fact that I like a band from the 90s explains why I like another band from the 90s?

No shit. Imagine that.

It's almost like there is some sort of common thread between what they both do or something.

[Jasper]

Am I the only person on here who prefers Ritual to NS?

Nope, it's my favorite as well. I like that it's more eclectic and less metal. Not that NS isn't a masterpiece. They're both works of genius.

[JOEinPHX]

I prefer Ritual to NS as well.

NS just sounds too 80s to me.

[Bandit72]

Am I the only person on here who prefers Ritual to NS?

Nope, it's my favorite as well. I like that it's more eclectic and less metal. Not that NS isn't a masterpiece. They're both works of genius.

Great analogy. That's about the same with me. I think the production is far better on Ritual too, less tinny.

[Hype]

it would be between a 6 and a 7.

I'd put it on myself, but i'd skip certain songs.

3-4 of the songs in fact.

Which is indicated not only by my 9 previous statements as such, but also by the visual that i gave you showing my exact ratings and plays of those songs.

I can't be any more transparent here.

Okay. Well, that just totally explains why you like STP. Carry on.

The fact that I like a band from the 90s explains why I like another band from the 90s?

No shit. Imagine that.

It's almost like there is some sort of common thread between what they both do or something.

There's no common thread.

[JOEinPHX]

it would be between a 6 and a 7.

I'd put it on myself, but i'd skip certain songs.

3-4 of the songs in fact.

Which is indicated not only by my 9 previous statements as such, but also by the visual that i gave you showing my exact ratings and plays of those songs.

I can't be any more transparent here.

Okay. Well, that just totally explains why you like STP. Carry on.

The fact that I like a band from the 90s explains why I like another band from the 90s?

No shit. Imagine that.

It's almost like there is some sort of common thread between what they both do or something.

There's no common thread.

I guess that's true. One was a rock band that wrote hit songs and played arenas, and the other puts on cabaret shows in half full theaters.

[Jasper]

Today on ANR:
Commercial success & popularity = quality.

[JOEinPHX]

Duh. Look at Led Zeppelin and The Beatles.