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lol! He doesn't miss a note. The guitar and bass sound fucking fresh right now and that's a good thing in JA land.Some of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Thanks for saying this. I couldn’t have said it better. Dude is killing it!!!! I’m sure all of us who play, can only dream of doing what he is doing. I know I do. The show was unreal.phenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
I'm really digging them. Listened to both studio albums after Bakersfield. I do think they are a little less polished live and without being a bit more familiar with their work it was hard to enjoy them at the Palladium as much as I was looking forward to seeing them again.. But the studio albums are pretty dreamy and very "LA" sounding. I had visions of walking around Melrose in the 80's while listening to them.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:50 pmI'm curious what people who've seen these few shows think of L.A. Witch. I really like their albums but I'm not sure if their tunes translates well live without sounding too same-y.
So true. I am a fierce RHCP fan and a rabid one for Froosh. I was pretty crushed that JK had, at best, misunderstood the spirit of the parts, but managed to put the band into a state of very serious live retrograde. It looked unsalvageable. I took my kiddo and a bunch of his friends to the IWY show as a HS grad present. I had to take solace in the fact they didn't give a fuck and loved the music and the moment. By JK's own admission he hadn't been a guitarist in quite some time, but he took the time and got better, but more importantly found a way to groove the Froosh songs while inserting a bit of himself. And his creative contributions to the band were fantastic (even if they weren't appreciated by AK and their fan base). At the time, I was spending some time with AK through a mutual friend which included a couple of weeks in Kauai. He was pretty rattled by JF's departure and was surprisingly open in his disdain. I'm not sure JK ever had a chance there.someguy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:00 pmHe struggled mightily at the beginning of his tenure with RHCP- once he got his legs under him he was great.Hokahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:27 pmAnd then goes on to completely nail the rest of the song for the most part. You’re being ridiculously hard on him. Troy also had his moments where he would fuck up. These are big shoes to fill and I’m sure if Josh were to stick around for a while those little mistakes would get cleaned up. In the meantime, I think he’s doing an admirable job and bringing some great energy to the band.CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pmHe completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.bman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:59 amThree Days. Josh is good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZjBJHRq_O8
I don't know how double C listens to music, but I like reading his takes on 3.0. Kinda ironic that they are so emotional while based in the technical. Part of my initial attraction to Jane's was their serious revolt on what should be. All of it, including the DN magic, seemed both determined and whimsical simultaneously. Decades later I'm seeing some of that playfulness again, and it's cool. Listening to the new players, I can't say I don't get sucker punched while waiting on a part where I want to hear a certain note or whatever, but all in all these new guys are throwin down hard and it works in the feels department. And any allusions to Steely Dan are awesomephenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
It is a new and different energy for sure. I think it’s the energy of realizing the time left to remove the tarnish has severely dwindled. And what’s going on with Dave is likely just adding to it. This is the energy of embarking on a final opportunity. And while being new, I think it still feels a bit like 1.0 because back then they knew the band wasn’t long for this world and behaved like it, where as now they know they themselves are not long for this world. A sort of finale party both times.
I think I remember you mentioning something like that a long time ago. Are you saying that at the time he was also open about not being satisfied with JK in the band? That would be surprising to meSR wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:50 amSo true. I am a fierce RHCP fan and a rabid one for Froosh. I was pretty crushed that JK had, at best, misunderstood the spirit of the parts, but managed to put the band into a state of very serious live retrograde. It looked unsalvageable. I took my kiddo and a bunch of his friends to the IWY show as a HS grad present. I had to take solace in the fact they didn't give a fuck and loved the music and the moment. By JK's own admission he hadn't been a guitarist in quite some time, but he took the time and got better, but more importantly found a way to groove the Froosh songs while inserting a bit of himself. And his creative contributions to the band were fantastic (even if they weren't appreciated by AK and their fan base). At the time, I was spending some time with AK through a mutual friend which included a couple of weeks in Kauai. He was pretty rattled by JF's departure and was surprisingly open in his disdain. I'm not sure JK ever had a chance there.someguy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:00 pmHe struggled mightily at the beginning of his tenure with RHCP- once he got his legs under him he was great.Hokahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:27 pmAnd then goes on to completely nail the rest of the song for the most part. You’re being ridiculously hard on him. Troy also had his moments where he would fuck up. These are big shoes to fill and I’m sure if Josh were to stick around for a while those little mistakes would get cleaned up. In the meantime, I think he’s doing an admirable job and bringing some great energy to the band.CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pmHe completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.bman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:59 amThree Days. Josh is good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZjBJHRq_O8
I don’t give a shit what the name of a thing is. I’m using terminology because it exists. I give a shit about essential parts being fucking mangled.phenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
Good points. Bottom line, Navarro is rare because, while he’s a technical player in some regards, his best aspect in Jane’s is a passionate, occasionally wild mix of exotic/erotic musicality. Like, his controlled feedback on Ted is musical. Josh’s isn’t. Josh doesn’t fuck.SR wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:11 amI don't know how double C listens to music, but I like reading his takes on 3.0. Kinda ironic that they are so emotional while based in the technical. Part of my initial attraction to Jane's was their serious revolt on what should be. All of it, including the DN magic, seemed both determined and whimsical simultaneously. Decades later I'm seeing some of that playfulness again, and it's cool. Listening to the new players, I can't say I don't get sucker punched while waiting on a part where I want to hear a certain note or whatever, but all in all these new guys are throwin down hard and it works in the feels department. And any allusions to Steely Dan are awesomephenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
Are you kidding? I could hit it having not played a Jane’s song in 20 years. Maybe I’ll zoom it later, lolJuan% wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:03 pmThanks for saying this. I couldn’t have said it better. Dude is killing it!!!! I’m sure all of us who play, can only dream of doing what he is doing. I know I do. The show was unreal.phenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
No. He never mentioned JK at all. In fact, at the time I'm not sure it was public that John had left again. I say that because I remember clearly I called Pete with the news because I thought he might be a good fit. What I do remember about AK was his clear irritation with John leaving calling him a "kook" among other things. He also stated that maintaining "relevance" was important to him. Fast forward to the mainly critical reception of the Klinghoffer era albums, the fact that the songs are ignored by the band now, and JK's instantaneous dismissal when Froosh was available, I just concluded that he wasn't valued.Noonesshocking wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:46 amI think I remember you mentioning something like that a long time ago. Are you saying that at the time he was also open about not being satisfied with JK in the band? That would be surprising to meSR wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:50 amSo true. I am a fierce RHCP fan and a rabid one for Froosh. I was pretty crushed that JK had, at best, misunderstood the spirit of the parts, but managed to put the band into a state of very serious live retrograde. It looked unsalvageable. I took my kiddo and a bunch of his friends to the IWY show as a HS grad present. I had to take solace in the fact they didn't give a fuck and loved the music and the moment. By JK's own admission he hadn't been a guitarist in quite some time, but he took the time and got better, but more importantly found a way to groove the Froosh songs while inserting a bit of himself. And his creative contributions to the band were fantastic (even if they weren't appreciated by AK and their fan base). At the time, I was spending some time with AK through a mutual friend which included a couple of weeks in Kauai. He was pretty rattled by JF's departure and was surprisingly open in his disdain. I'm not sure JK ever had a chance there.someguy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:00 pmHe struggled mightily at the beginning of his tenure with RHCP- once he got his legs under him he was great.Hokahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:27 pmAnd then goes on to completely nail the rest of the song for the most part. You’re being ridiculously hard on him. Troy also had his moments where he would fuck up. These are big shoes to fill and I’m sure if Josh were to stick around for a while those little mistakes would get cleaned up. In the meantime, I think he’s doing an admirable job and bringing some great energy to the band.CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pmHe completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.bman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:59 amThree Days. Josh is good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZjBJHRq_O8
CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:03 amAre you kidding? I could hit it having not played a Jane’s song in 20 years. Maybe I’ll zoom it later, lolJuan% wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:03 pmThanks for saying this. I couldn’t have said it better. Dude is killing it!!!! I’m sure all of us who play, can only dream of doing what he is doing. I know I do. The show was unreal.phenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
I just want to be entertained by the guy who plays the parts properly. Aren’t you the dude who posted the sub-high school band and tried to pass it off as new Jane’s tracks?Juan% wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:30 amCaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:03 amAre you kidding? I could hit it having not played a Jane’s song in 20 years. Maybe I’ll zoom it later, lolJuan% wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:03 pmThanks for saying this. I couldn’t have said it better. Dude is killing it!!!! I’m sure all of us who play, can only dream of doing what he is doing. I know I do. The show was unreal.phenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
Well, that’s awesome for you. Good thing there’s a message board for you to go to, since it’s not you, this time.
CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:38 amI just want to be entertained by the guy who plays the parts properly. Aren’t you the dude who posted the sub-high school band and tried to pass it off as new Jane’s tracks?Juan% wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:30 amCaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:03 amAre you kidding? I could hit it having not played a Jane’s song in 20 years. Maybe I’ll zoom it later, lolJuan% wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:03 pmThanks for saying this. I couldn’t have said it better. Dude is killing it!!!! I’m sure all of us who play, can only dream of doing what he is doing. I know I do. The show was unreal.phenobarb_bambalam wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:55 pmSome of us don't know what an arpeggio is (I do, kind of).CaseyContrarian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:05 pm
He completely fucks up the clean arpeggios in the intro. It’s embarrassing.
Some of us don't give a fuck what an arpeggios is (I don't).
We listen, we don't dissect - we feel and it feels fucking good.
So well done for having a boner for shitting on someone a number of landmark artists have trusted for almost two decades with their work and legacies; there's no fucking embarassment, other than the shit you shovel.
Contrarian indeed, bravo.
Well, that’s awesome for you. Good thing there’s a message board for you to go to, since it’s not you, this time.
This is what we do here. Make our passionate claims about what Jane’s should be or should have been after 30+ years of being denied one way or another. I’m sure you’ll survive, as will I. Have a good day.
Tyler Durden wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:48 amI enjoyed listening to the RHCP albums that JK played on upon their release. But I haven’t really gone back to them. The minute Frusciante had left the band for a second time, I wanted Dave back with them. I would’ve been much happier with two followup albums to One Hot Minute than what we got with JK in the band.
Say what you will about Dave and what he has or hasn’t done during his career from the late 90s onward….but JK NEVER recorded anything close to what Dave did with the original era of Jane’s.
If Jane’s records without Dave, I’m all ears…but it won’t be Jane’s Addiction…just like how it wasn’t without Eric. You can argue that it may end up being closer than what they did without Eric…but it still won’t be Jane’s without the “original” four members.
I’m actually loving whatever this new thing is, bus without Dave, it’s not Jane’s. Would be like bauhaus without Daniel Ash.Tyler Durden wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:48 amI enjoyed listening to the RHCP albums that JK played on upon their release. But I haven’t really gone back to them. The minute Frusciante had left the band for a second time, I wanted Dave back with them. I would’ve been much happier with two followup albums to One Hot Minute than what we got with JK in the band.
Say what you will about Dave and what he has or hasn’t done during his career from the late 90s onward….but JK NEVER recorded anything close to what Dave did with the original era of Jane’s.
If Jane’s records without Dave, I’m all ears…but it won’t be Jane’s Addiction…just like how it wasn’t without Eric. You can argue that it may end up being closer than what they did without Eric…but it still won’t be Jane’s without the “original” four members.