Aint No Right

blackula wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

If I remember correctly this was in Whores. Rick Ruben hated Perry and wanted Jane's without him. He then tried recruiting Dave for another band he was putting together.

Yeah, I remember. But to be honest, even with Eric I don't think they could come up with anything good. I was excited back in 2008. Nowadays, not so much. But I agree with bandit. It was a good article.

blackula wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

If I remember correctly this was in Whores. Rick Ruben hated Perry and wanted Jane's without him. He then tried recruiting Dave for another band he was putting together.

Rick Rubin was grooming Samhain (Glenn Danzig's band after the Misfits...which then changed its name to Danzig) in order to take them from clubs to arenas...so the intent was to put together a supergroup of sorts. He had Dave in mind as their guitarist.

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

I totally agree, creep. People can talk shit about Perry all they want (I do my fair share here)...but the truth is, Perry's voice and control over the band was a huge influence on their sound and success back in the day, respectively. Unfortunately, the band imploded and Perry would grow to be a douche by the early 2000s.

Tyler Durden wrote:

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

I totally agree, creep. People can talk shit about Perry all they want (I do my fair share here)...but the truth is, Perry's voice and control over the band was a huge influence on their sound and success back in the day, respectively. Unfortunately, the band imploded and Perry would grow to be a douche by the early 2000s.

I would've thought it would've been obvious to anyone who knew anything about the band and its sound to think that removing Perry would cause the band to cease to be.. WTF sort of retard thinks it would've been the same or better band, with a different singer? Fucking ludicrous. Regardless of what Perry and the band has become now or post 1.0 that's just a moronic statement/idea...

Yep

Tyler Durden wrote:

blackula wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

If I remember correctly this was in Whores. Rick Ruben hated Perry and wanted Jane's without him. He then tried recruiting Dave for another band he was putting together.

Rick Rubin was grooming Samhain (Glenn Danzig's band after the Misfits...which then changed its name to Danzig) in order to take them from clubs to arenas...so the intent was to put together a supergroup of sorts. He had Dave in mind as their guitarist.

I never knew that ... Interesting ... I guess john Christ does have that studio metal head session guy feel that dave ended up being .. Dave in danzig would have been awful tho ... Dave would have been laughed out of the room compared to the other monsters on stage... Deconstruction was on rubins label tho so i guess rubin got his wish .. Decent sounds but eric singing was wretched .. Thanks for that rick

trevor ayer wrote:

Tyler Durden wrote:

blackula wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

If I remember correctly this was in Whores. Rick Ruben hated Perry and wanted Jane's without him. He then tried recruiting Dave for another band he was putting together.

Rick Rubin was grooming Samhain (Glenn Danzig's band after the Misfits...which then changed its name to Danzig) in order to take them from clubs to arenas...so the intent was to put together a supergroup of sorts. He had Dave in mind as their guitarist.

I never knew that ... Interesting ... I guess john Christ does have that studio metal head session guy feel that dave ended up being .. Dave in danzig would have been awful tho ... Dave would have been laughed out of the room compared to the other monsters on stage... Deconstruction was on rubins label tho so i guess rubin got his wish .. Decent sounds but eric singing was wretched .. Thanks for that rick

Dave would not have survived in Danzig. He was/is too sensitive...whereas the guys in Danzig had strong personalities and were major ball busters.

Rick Rubin's boner for Dave was as big as Axl's.

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

Deconstruction says otherwise.

Troll

Six7Six7 wrote:

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

Deconstruction says otherwise.

porno for pyros says otherwise

Six7Six7 wrote:

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

Deconstruction says otherwise.

You're saying Decon = RdlH? C'mon.....

blackula wrote:Rick Rubin's boner for Dave was as big as Axl's.

What makes Dave so special? I'm sure there were other guitarists around back then?

He's an ok guitarist, but he's been boring since 20 years or so

I listened to RDLH on Spotify today. It's fucking great. It wouldn't be that album if any of the musicians were different. They all need to be on that album. There may have been better vocalists then, but not for that album. There may have been better guitarists then, but not for that album. And the bass and drum tracks are untouchable by anyone.

I hope no one is really arguing that Janes could have existed without Perry. Come on.
And as much as I love Nothings Shocking (Ocean, Summertime, Pigs, Ted, all classics, plus the monster that is Jane Says..), it was Ritual that solidified Janes as a cult classic band. I find myself having so very little time to sit back and relax and listen to music anymore. But when I do I am still amazed how Three Days and Then She Did are absolute timeless beauties.

creep wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

Deconstruction says otherwise.

porno for pyros says otherwise

I agree on both accounts.
Though they were never as great as Jane's. That time was magical. Nowadays the only time I can see Perry performing well is when he's going down on Etty.

nausearockpig wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

Deconstruction says otherwise.

You're saying Decon = RdlH? C'mon.....

No, I'm saying they made a great record without Perry.

kv wrote:Troll

Definition: "It's 2015, and you disagree with me, so here's the label I am going to give you"

That word is played out. Find a new one. Or come up with an intelligent response. Using the word "Troll" is how lazy people dismiss the opinions of others without having to disprove anything they said.

Six7Six7 wrote:

nausearockpig wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:

creep wrote:

perkana wrote:

I’m not going to mention names, but there were producers that wanted to kick Perry out of the band.

I don't want to say I was surprised by this. Even though I liked him then, now I can see that he was a fake and could have been annoying as hell to deal with. That's the vibe he gave/gives me.

he was the best there was back then. annoying or not jane's would be nothing without him.

Deconstruction says otherwise.

You're saying Decon = RdlH? C'mon.....

No, I'm saying they made a great record without Perry.

Fair enough.

Six7Six7 wrote:

kv wrote:Troll

Definition: "It's 2015, and you disagree with me, so here's the label I am going to give you"

That word is played out. Find a new one. Or come up with an intelligent response. Using the word "Troll" is how lazy people dismiss the opinions of others without having to disprove anything they said.

Being a troll is played out, find a new hobby Joe.

kv wrote:

Six7Six7 wrote:

kv wrote:Troll

Definition: "It's 2015, and you disagree with me, so here's the label I am going to give you"

That word is played out. Find a new one. Or come up with an intelligent response. Using the word "Troll" is how lazy people dismiss the opinions of others without having to disprove anything they said.

Being a troll is played out, find a new hobby Joe.

Definition: "Don't express an opinion that disagrees with me"

Got it. Everyone remember to never ever say anything that KV doesn't agree with.

KV, please provide us a list of your positions so that we can reference what we can talk about.

Ohhh I hit a soft spot!

bman wrote:I find myself having so very little time to sit back and relax and listen to music anymore. But when I do I am still amazed how Three Days and Then She Did are absolute timeless beauties.

And yet you have time to come here and post?