Dave's Return?

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Re: Dave's Return?

#301 Post by eye » Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:15 am

I hope Dave is there for the shows in May.

I don’t think the band is hiding anything.. they just don’t know if he’ll be up to the task. I’m not sure Dave even knows tbh 🤷🏻‍♂️

Fingers crossed

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Re: Dave's Return?

#302 Post by clickie » Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:25 am

What's the last official song the band released with all 4 core members I think it might have been Ripple. Jerry Garcia said himself it's a great cover then next thing I knew Jane's broke up.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#303 Post by Moschops » Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:38 am

clickie wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:25 am
What's the last official song the band released with all 4 core members I think it might have been Ripple. Jerry Garcia said himself it's a great cover then next thing I knew Jane's broke up.
Last new song maybe (if a cover counts as a ‘new’ song). But we did get studio versions of Whores and Chip Away on the NINJA ep.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#304 Post by someguy » Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:23 am

It wouldn’t surprise me if they are reappraising embrace the darkness and I’ll protect you from those sessions too

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Re: Dave's Return?

#305 Post by Diabolik » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:05 pm

Wont be surprised if those songs get reworked or finished

I’m having flashbacks to 09 when on the NINJA tour there was this mini jam in the middle of Pigs in Zen that sounded awesome and I had such fucking high hopes 🤦‍♂️

This little jam at 2:14 in

https://youtu.be/9Cwny1ONQok?si=GLKBT3REp2cWdWAm

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Re: Dave's Return?

#306 Post by eye » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:16 pm

Diabolik wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:05 pm
Wont be surprised if those songs get reworked or finished

I’m having flashbacks to 09 when on the NINJA tour there was this mini jam in the middle of Pigs in Zen that sounded awesome and I had such fucking high hopes 🤦‍♂️

This little jam at 2:14 in

https://youtu.be/9Cwny1ONQok?si=GLKBT3REp2cWdWAm
I loved that part too .. wonder if if was ever part of a new song?

I think we’ll get: True Love, The ultimate redemption, Kettle whistle.

Hope we get an album tho

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Re: Dave's Return?

#307 Post by someguy » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:24 pm

Diabolik wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:05 pm
Wont be surprised if those songs get reworked or finished

I’m having flashbacks to 09 when on the NINJA tour there was this mini jam in the middle of Pigs in Zen that sounded awesome and I had such fucking high hopes 🤦‍♂️

This little jam at 2:14 in

https://youtu.be/9Cwny1ONQok?si=GLKBT3REp2cWdWAm
That would be incredible if they did that one. I told Stephen they should lol.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#308 Post by Diabolik » Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:09 pm

I always thought that little name was part of Embrace the Darkness or I’ll Protect You.

It SEEMED pretty thought out…

Unless it was some jam they worked up at sound check

Either way

I’m desperate for more

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Re: Dave's Return?

#309 Post by Hokahey » Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:27 pm

Diabolik wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:05 pm
Wont be surprised if those songs get reworked or finished

I’m having flashbacks to 09 when on the NINJA tour there was this mini jam in the middle of Pigs in Zen that sounded awesome and I had such fucking high hopes 🤦‍♂️

This little jam at 2:14 in

https://youtu.be/9Cwny1ONQok?si=GLKBT3REp2cWdWAm
I feel like I’m the only one that really disliked that little jam. It sounds like U2 to me. Not Janes at all.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#310 Post by someguy » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:45 pm

Diabolik wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:09 pm
I always thought that little name was part of Embrace the Darkness or I’ll Protect You.

It SEEMED pretty thought out…

Unless it was some jam they worked up at sound check

Either way

I’m desperate for more
During the Xiola days we were speculating it was embrace the darkness- Sonny asked Eric and he said it was something they came up with during rehearsals for ninja.

I do think the guitar pattern is similar with different notes though when comparing both snippets

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Re: Dave's Return?

#311 Post by Diabolik » Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:40 am

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:27 pm
Diabolik wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:05 pm
Wont be surprised if those songs get reworked or finished

I’m having flashbacks to 09 when on the NINJA tour there was this mini jam in the middle of Pigs in Zen that sounded awesome and I had such fucking high hopes 🤦‍♂️

This little jam at 2:14 in

https://youtu.be/9Cwny1ONQok?si=GLKBT3REp2cWdWAm
I feel like I’m the only one that really disliked that little jam. It sounds like U2 to me. Not Janes at all.
Ya know -that could be true, I think I latched onto that 45 seconds in a desperate attempt to believe we’d get something new.

And I may only like it because it was something new

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Re: Dave's Return?

#312 Post by eye » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:37 am

Anyone still have that minuscule clip of embrace the darkness that was floating around?

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Re: Dave's Return?

#313 Post by someguy » Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:27 am

https://vocaroo.com/eNLIqg5zVXh

I forgot they were calling this laughing beats too and that there are were some lyrics floating around… can’t find that anymore

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Re: Dave's Return?

#314 Post by Noonesshocking » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:41 am

someguy wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:27 am
https://vocaroo.com/eNLIqg5zVXh

I forgot they were calling this laughing beats too and that there are were some lyrics floating around… can’t find that anymore
https://janesaddiction.org/songs/janes- ... -darkness/
“Embrace the darkness” Give ’em a chance. “Embrace the darkness;” It’s the boogieman, and he wants to dance! He wants to dance! Yeah dance!
:noclue:

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Re: Dave's Return?

#315 Post by eye » Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:30 am

Noonesshocking wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:41 am
someguy wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:27 am
https://vocaroo.com/eNLIqg5zVXh

I forgot they were calling this laughing beats too and that there are were some lyrics floating around… can’t find that anymore
https://janesaddiction.org/songs/janes- ... -darkness/
“Embrace the darkness” Give ’em a chance. “Embrace the darkness;” It’s the boogieman, and he wants to dance! He wants to dance! Yeah dance!
:noclue:
Those lyrics leave something to be desired do they… yikes !!

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Re: Dave's Return?

#316 Post by Diabolik » Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:38 pm

Saw Perking posting on is at what I guess is a reversal? And the a fully stocked guitar pedal in frame 👀

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#317 Post by CaseyContrarian » Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:10 pm

Looks like a buncha Boss pedals and a Tube Screamer, so could definitely be Dave.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#318 Post by nausearockpig » Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:35 pm

CaseyContrarian wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:10 pm
Looks like a buncha Boss pedals and a Tube Screamer, so could definitely be Dave.
Yeh that looks just like Dave’s pedalboard. Two delays on the bottom right.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#319 Post by elbuitre » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:51 am

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:27 pm
Diabolik wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:05 pm
Wont be surprised if those songs get reworked or finished

I’m having flashbacks to 09 when on the NINJA tour there was this mini jam in the middle of Pigs in Zen that sounded awesome and I had such fucking high hopes 🤦‍♂️

This little jam at 2:14 in

https://youtu.be/9Cwny1ONQok?si=GLKBT3REp2cWdWAm
I feel like I’m the only one that really disliked that little jam. It sounds like U2 to me. Not Janes at all.
Agreed, it sounds like something off Great Escape Artist.

I don't really expect them to write anything that lives up to Jane's 1.0 but I'll still be excited to hear whatever they put out.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#320 Post by elbuitre » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:59 am

someguy wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:27 am
https://vocaroo.com/eNLIqg5zVXh

I forgot they were calling this laughing beats too and that there are were some lyrics floating around… can’t find that anymore
That sounds like Strays or the 'heavier' stuff from Satellite Party.

Self-conscious rawk :jasper:

How can sober, wealthy men in their 50s and 60s write songs that emulate their drug-addled 20s and 30s? I don't think it's possible.

They'd be better off writing gentler songs rather than attempting to recapture the harder sound of their youth, IMO.

Great news about Dave though :thumb:

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Re: Dave's Return?

#321 Post by Hokahey » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:43 am

elbuitre wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:59 am
someguy wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:27 am
https://vocaroo.com/eNLIqg5zVXh

I forgot they were calling this laughing beats too and that there are were some lyrics floating around… can’t find that anymore
That sounds like Strays or the 'heavier' stuff from Satellite Party.

Self-conscious rawk :jasper:

How can sober, wealthy men in their 50s and 60s write songs that emulate their drug-addled 20s and 30s? I don't think it's possible.

They'd be better off writing gentler songs rather than attempting to recapture the harder sound of their youth, IMO.

Great news about Dave though :thumb:
I feel like that logic should only really apply to lyrics though, right?

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Re: Dave's Return?

#322 Post by JOEinPHX » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:21 am

elbuitre wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:59 am

How can sober, wealthy men in their 50s and 60s write songs that emulate their drug-addled 20s and 30s? I don't think it's possible.
1. Is that what people really want? Reminds me of when Motley Crue put out a song called "Sex" a few years ago, like anyone wanted to hear a bunch of 60 year olds in pleather singing about gettin' puss. I don't care if Perry writes songs about growing tomato plants in his backyard garden, as long as that's what he is passionate about at this point in his life. It's going to be far more real than if he tries to be what he THINKS the fans want, because as we all know... they are clueless about that.

2. Dave JUST got clean. So who knows.... maybe there's some of that wacky drug addict still there ready to play some weird shit. :noclue:

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Re: Dave's Return?

#323 Post by Diabolik » Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:47 am

I was listening to True Love and I’m wondering how that morphs if it becomes a 3.0 song.

That song has real potential — Especially if Dave adds some real shimmery/delay stuff that floats around the Bass and Drums.

The lyrics —which I suspect would morph a bit —are later era Perry things, but I don’t mind. Perry seems to be more comfortable writing about generalities or bigger themes as opposed to focused events — maybe I’m reaching.

But if he wants to sing about the nature of true love, as opposed to a serial killer — in here for it

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Re: Dave's Return?

#324 Post by Hokahey » Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:36 pm

I don’t remember being turned off by any of the lyrics on TGEA, unlike Strays. There was nothing amazing in there, but it was fine.

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Re: Dave's Return?

#325 Post by SR » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:23 pm

I still don't see this unfolding in any healthy way. I'm not convinced DN is capable on any creative or physical level. We'll see soon

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