Aint No Right

creep wrote:you guys are nuts. where is jasper to agree with me that it was the best episode of the season so far and prove me right?

Six7Six7 wrote:If anyone deserves it, it's Sansa.

Her shitty decisions have continuously fucked her family.

Jasper wrote:
You've got issues. If you only want to come around to tell us how much you approve of characters being raped, maybe you shouldn't bother.

perkana wrote: I thought the scene with Bronn and the Sand Snakes could have been left out.

Jasper wrote:It was a much better episode than the last one. It kept things tense, and I pretty much enjoyed all of it. The jail scene in Dorne was the only time I've really liked the sand snakes, or at least one of the sand snakes. They picked the right one for that part.

Viewers looking for a break from the theme of sexual assault on Game of Thrones were in for a disappointment tonight. After last week’s bleak and disturbing treatment of Sansa Stark, the latest episode added yet another sexual assault of a female character that doesn’t exist in the books. In the show, the wildling Gilly was rescued by Samwell Tarly (with a big assist from Jon’s direwolf Ghost) from being raped or worse by members of the Night’s Watch. Presumably this scene exists not only to bring Sam and Gilly closer (and it worked, she had sex with him in this scene out of gratitude, it seems), but to drive home to the viewer how unfriendly the Wall has become for the pair of them (and the baby) in the wake of Maester Aemon’s death and the departure of Commander Snow.

Does this sexual assault happen in the books? No it does not. Gilly is certainly made to feel unwelcome (in—spoiler alert— a very heartbreaking way]), but near-rape has nothing to do with it. Like the rape of Daenerys on her wedding night to Khal Drogo in Season 1, or the strange reimagining of Cersei and Jaime’s encounter last season, or Sansa’s horrible wedding night, this is another instance of the show sexually threatening a female protagonist in a way not even the very grim and violent book series does.

So given that tenor of sexual menace on the show, what should we make of the scene between Tyene Sand and Ser Bronn of the Blackwater? Exposed female flesh is par for the course on Game of Thrones, but there are already those who claim the nudity in this episode from 19 year-old Rosabell Laurenti Sellers is empowering for women. Here’s a female character who has flipped the script and weaponized her sexuality to take down a man. But ask yourself, other than titillating the audience, what did that nude scene accomplish? Tyene had already wounded Bronn with her knife, the poison was going to take affect anyway. All her strip show did was make the blood flow faster and the poison act quicker.
This wasn’t seduction as self-defense or weapon, this was seduction as added eye candy. Which would be fine as long as we got a naked Daario scene for every nude Sand Snake, naked Myranda, and exposed Melisandre. But, I think we all know that won’t be the case.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/201 ... ault-gilly

I am getting a flood of emails and off-topic comments on this blog about tonight's episode of GAME OF THRONES. It's not unanticipated.

The comments... regardless of tone... have been deleted. I have been saying since season one that this is not the place to debate or discuss the TV series. Please respect that.

There are better places for such discussions: Westeros, Tower of the Hand, Watchers on the Wall, Winter Is Coming, the comments sections of the television critics who regularly follow the show: James Hibberd, Alyssa Rosenberg, Mo Ryan, James Poniewozik, and their colleagues. I am sure all those sites will be having a healthy debate.

I have a lot of fans asking me for comment.

Let me reiterate what I have said before.

How many children did Scarlett O'Hara have? Three, in the novel. One, in the movie. None, in real life: she was a fictional character, she never existed. The show is the show, the books are the books; two different tellings of the same story.

There have been differences between the novels and the television show since the first episode of season one. And for just as long, I have been talking about the butterfly effect. Small changes lead to larger changes lead to huge changes. HBO is more than forty hours into the impossible and demanding task of adapting my lengthy (extremely) and complex (exceedingly) novels, with their layers of plots and subplots, their twists and contradictions and unreliable narrators, viewpoint shifts and ambiguities, and a cast of characters in the hundreds.

There has seldom been any TV series as faithful to its source material, by and large (if you doubt that, talk to the Harry Dresden fans, or readers of the Sookie Stackhouse novels, or the fans of the original WALKING DEAD comic books)... but the longer the show goes on, the bigger the butterflies become. And now we have reached the point where the beat of butterfly wings is stirring up storms, like the one presently engulfing my email.

Prose and television have different strengths, different weaknesses, different requirements.

David and Dan and Bryan and HBO are trying to make the best television series that they can.

And over here I am trying to write the best novels that I can.

And yes, more and more, they differ. Two roads diverging in the dark of the woods, I suppose... but all of us are still intending that at the end we will arrive at the same place.

In the meantime, we hope that the readers and viewers both enjoy the journey. Or journeys, as the case may be. Sometimes butterflies grow into dragons.

((I am closing comments on this post. Take your discussions to the other sites I have mentioned. And for those who may be curious as to the road the books are taking, I direct you to the WINDS OF WINTER sample chapters on my website)).
http://grrm.livejournal.com/427713.html

perkana wrote:What a fucking ending!! Winter is finally fucking here yo!
It's been the longest episode too or it just felt like it?

creep wrote:i'm the only person alive i think that get's bored during the fight scenes. i've always been that way. long fight scenes or car chases (heat) are so predictable and put me to sleep

creep wrote:i'm the only person alive i think that get's bored during the fight scenes. i've always been that way. long fight scenes or car chases (heat) are so predictable and put me to sleep. i found the conversation between the khalsi and tyrion way more interesting. give me 60 minutes of that and i would be happy.

good episode though