Have mercy...you guys take this stuff way too seriously...seriously...
OK...so the bar is set pretty high because BB was wonderfully done. But honestly? I expect more out of literature than I do from anything on TV...can a TV show have the same impact? Absolutely, but the majority of what you see on TV isn't built for the same things a good book is, imo and I think in general my expectations are just lower these days. I think there were flat points in the episodes we've seen so far, but if I enjoy something for the most part I'm not going to spend to much time fussing over the parts I didn't care for. I'm not looking for anything too deep in the medium of TV as a whole. If it's there cool, but I dunno...Breaking Bad has some slow moments too...some scenes I could have done without and some corny dialogue at points...but ya don't throw away a Mercedes because it's got a dent in it...
I don't know if VG purposely alienates his audience, but it's obvious this duo is a facsimile of skinny and the other, really irritating, badger. And it's just a chat es, nothing earth shattering. I just didn't like them nor tucos return. But we'll see. It's early and I'm jumpy as I thought bb was the best thing eva!
Maybe it's because I actually have known people as dumb as Skinny Pete and Badger?
I don't think the skater kids were the same...they actually served the purpose of making Jesse look like he had a head on his shoulders to some extent and they are caricatures for a particular brand of drug addict...not that I'm overanalyzing...
I know you're just chatting, I just think it's still too early to call it...I liked Tuco's return for the simple fact that against the way he was portrayed in BB he was actually calm and quiet in his first scenes. His particular brand of crazy didn't show itself till later which I was good with...again I didn't even think the Saul character was strong enough to warrant a show...and from what I've read Chuck is his older brother not his father...let's just see if what they've thrown at it sticks to the wall I say...
Six7Six7 wrote:It's been 2 episodes and you guys are already picking every single tiny thing apart?
They are still introducing what the show even is. The story won't even start till episode 3 or 4.
Slow down.
I was just reflecting on the cinematography, and general form that each episode seems to take, not the specifics of the story. I expect that to be excellent.
I wasn't that impressed with the latest episode. It feels like they're intentionally drawing things out to create a whole season out of something that could be covered in a single episode (how Jimmy becomes Saul...). There's also a distinct lack of interesting, and female, characters so far.
The only thing keeping me watching is that the cinematography is still great, and the hope that the writing gets better.
Mmm, the show's not on life support just yet. I mentioned my disdain for sequels (prequels) earlier in the thread, but if anyone can do it, it's VG. Part of the problem is the inevitable comparison to BB en masse v. 3 episodes.
You and I have dramatically different tastes where 22 minute sitcom comedy is concerned. Seinfeld and Frasier.....
Off the top of my head.....Modern Family, 3rd Rock from the Sun, and Taxi are all excellent....The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad are all excellent animated shows
I didn't say Frasier was good, just that it was successful (it's the most successful sitcom spin-off of all time, I think). The Cleveland Show was a bad spin-off from Family Guy. I don't really like any of Seth Macfarlane's shows. Nor do I like Modern Family. But anyway, Better Call Saul *is* good so far, so I didn't mean to suggest that it wasn't. But it's impossible NOT to compare it to BB (you could try not to, but ... that's like not comparing Satellite Party to Jane's Addiction... it's got one of the same people in it... your brain just goes there...)
the best spinoffs were the jeffersons and gomer pyle. the andy griffith show is technically a spinoff too i guess.
but you are right....spinoffs usually suck but i like the idea of this being a prequel so our favorite breaking bad characters can show up at any time.
Adurentibus Spina wrote:This is why spin-offs are almost always a bad idea.
Yes, and always money grabs. Here, with BCS I think VG has demonstrated some serious stones in that BB was so good and so well received by so many. Because BB was so good, I think (hope) his best effort will yield some very good things.
Nacho's gonna come back to get him, then somehow something something Mike. And his brother dies or doesn't die. Plus something about the rival law firm. I've got it all figured out.
SR wrote:Part of the problem is the inevitable comparison to BB en masse v. 3 episodes.
You and I have dramatically different tastes where 22 minute sitcom comedy is concerned. Seinfeld and Frasier.....
Off the top of my head.....Modern Family, 3rd Rock from the Sun, and Taxi are all excellent....The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad are all excellent animated shows
The bold part is THE problem...I'd rather give it some time...don't know if I've ever mentioned before but I love StarTrek...the different shows have different feels to them, but even my favorites started off SHITTY...I mean it's almost a given that the first season of everything TV wise since Shatner has taken at least 2 seasons to get good...this feels like a Star Trek thing for me, I mean that's all I can compare it to...it's still gotta find it's place in the universe, but it's set in a framework we're all familiar with...
And I LOVE Taxi always have...but if you have to go back that far to find what you think is an excellent sitcom...you need to watch more TV...
Seinfeld was great...I think All in the Family gets slept on a lot...I am still a HUGE fan of the Cosby Show...those I could pretty much watch forever and not tire of them...
SR wrote:Part of the problem is the inevitable comparison to BB en masse v. 3 episodes.
You and I have dramatically different tastes where 22 minute sitcom comedy is concerned. Seinfeld and Frasier.....
Off the top of my head.....Modern Family, 3rd Rock from the Sun, and Taxi are all excellent....The Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad are all excellent animated shows
The bold part is THE problem...I'd rather give it some time...don't know if I've ever mentioned before but I love StarTrek...the different shows have different feels to them, but even my favorites started off SHITTY...I mean it's almost a given that the first season of everything TV wise since Shatner has taken at least 2 seasons to get good...this feels like a Star Trek thing for me, I mean that's all I can compare it to...it's still gotta find it's place in the universe, but it's set in a framework we're all familiar with...
And I LOVE Taxi always have...but if you have to go back that far to find what you think is an excellent sitcom...you need to watch more TV...
Seinfeld was great...I think All in the Family gets slept on a lot...I am still a HUGE fan of the Cosby Show...those I could pretty much watch forever and not tire of them...
You think that's far....how's this? (And Seinfeld is the most over rated show eva)
Hot L Baltimore? GREAT SHOW.....Pre All In The Family
