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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Mon May 04, 2015 12:47 pm

I believe they said that they have been consulting GRRM to have the same ending, although how they get to it will be up to them. I really dig that. We'll just have two versions of it. And I guess it would be the first time that the readers will have a spoiler. But by the time the final book gets published, I will probably forget about the show's ending.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Thu May 28, 2015 7:36 pm

I'm really not sure they will bring Lady Stoneheart to the series with all the editing that has been done. But who knows :noclue:
Both the Game of Thrones creatives and actress Michelle Fairley have sworn that the Lady Stoneheart plot has been permanently cut from the show, but there are plenty of die-hard fans who fervently hope Fairley will still return to take her Starkish revenge on the Freys and the Boltons. And there are plenty of weird and esoteric clues to keep that dream alive like, say, this odd prosthetic Catelyn head or the quickly-pulled IMDB listing of Fairley as “Hooded Woman” for Episode 10. In short, Lady Stoneheart truthers will cling to whatever sliver of hope they can find and, as far as slivers go, “Mother’s Mercy” is a decent-sized one.

Then again, we can probably think of a dozen other things “Mother’s Mercy” could refer to. There’s Cersei, who’s due to take her big humiliating walk through the Capitol. (The High Sparrow made reference to the Mother’s Mercy in Episode 7 so this is the likeliest candidate.) There’s Gilly and her baby to consider. There’s the possible revelation of Jon Snow’s parentage. There’s Dany, who may be re-united with her “children.” (Though that’s far likelier to happen in Episode 9, “The Dance of Dragons.”) There’s Sansa, who may take on the Stoneheart role herself or, alternatively, could very well bake expectant mother Walda Frey into a pie and serve it to Roose Bolton. (The North remembers, Roose.) There’s Selyse Baratheon, who may or may not try to stop the burning of her young daughter Shireen. There’s Arya, who, at one point in the books, goes by Mercy. And there’s Jon, again, who, well, will probably need any kind of mercy he can get after the mutiny at the Wall.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/game-of-thrones-finale-mothers-mercy-lady-stoneheart
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Mescal » Thu May 28, 2015 10:47 pm

How will they reveal John Snow's parentage?

There's no cue for that, is there?
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Fri May 29, 2015 8:29 am

I don't think they will this season, him being busy getting the wildlings together to fight with them against the White Walkers and all. I would guess "Mother's Mercy" is going to do more with Cersei's walk of shame, too. Don't think Catelynn Stark will be coming from the dead to revenge her family.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Mescal » Sun May 31, 2015 10:18 am

Nah, don't think so either. Even in the book her role as a coming back from the dead mother is not that important ...

Haven't seen Beric Dondarrion in the series for a while either ...
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby blackula » Sun May 31, 2015 7:20 pm

Hey readers, I read the first 2 books and stopped when I read the show is gonna spoil the books. Tonight's episode was amazing, I know we've had a few "past the book" moments, but did tonight really pass what's been written?
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Sun May 31, 2015 9:19 pm

I just remember the crows gathering the wildlings, but that fight hasn't happened yet. Neither the meeting between Dany and Tyrion. But I'm not complaining. I love the books as much as I love the show.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:25 am

This is just a theory about how could this season end, plus a small explanation about the Night's King (creepy dude who resurrects dead people).
Big spoilers ahead, you've been warned...
The character hasn’t even shown up in the book yet but is described on the Game of Thrones wiki as follows:

According to legend, the Night’s King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman “with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars,” he chased her and loved her though “her skin was cold as ice,” and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.

That’s right, the Night’s King is a former Lord Commander. Just like Jon Snow. The wiki goes on to say:

He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years. During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until his own brother, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Night’s King was brought down and the Night’s Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the Others (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Night’s Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south.

There are also rumors that, during his human life, the Night’s King was a Stark named Bran. Hmmmm. So what do we know? The Night’s King is a former Lord Commander who, as was displayed in this episode, is very skilled at bringing people back from the dead. Why does that matter? Let’s discuss below the spoiler warning.

Those who have read the books (or indulged in spoilers) will expect that when Jon Snow returns to the Wall from Hardhome he won’t be very popular. In the books, Snow is stabbed multiple times by his fellow watchmen as part of a mutinous plot. We can expect that in the show this mutiny will be lead by that perma-grouch Alliser Thorne. Olly’s role in the mutiny is still somewhat up in the air, but he’s not sounding very loyal of late, is he? But as far as the last completed George R.R. Martin book A Dance with Dragons is concerned, Jon Snow is presumed dead; stabbed to death by his comrades at arms.

Despite the high body count among the heroes of Game of Thrones, most readers have never believed that cliffhanger or Jon Snow’s death would stick. There are a few options when it comes to bringing a human back from the dead on Game of Thrones. We can assume Melisandre is capable of something like that. She might need to burn a lot of royal blood to pull it off, but I wouldn’t put it past her. Carice Van Houten said she has another big scene with Kit Harrington in Season 5, so the Red Woman is a possibility. We also know, from Season 3, that the red priest Thoros of Myr can bring people back from the dead. He’s done it several times with Beric Dondarian. One theory as to why the show hasn’t given us Thoros of Myr resurrecting Lady Stoneheart (a.k.a. Zombie Catelyn Stark) is that creators Dan Weiss and David Benioff didn’t want to ruin the surprise behind a Myrish resurrection of Jon Snow.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:10 am

What do you think about this recent theory?
If Lyanna did have twins, the safest plan would be to split them up. According to the twins theory, one went with Ned, and the other went with Howland. And it turns out there's actually evidence to support this.

Some fans think it's too close to Star Wars which I think so too. I'm done with keeping track of Kit Harrington's locks (why is he in Belfast? Why hasn't he cut his hair? Will he be in flashbacks? I really don't give a damn). But I'm happy to read that it looks like The Hound will be back :wiggle:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jon-snow-theory-game-of-thrones_55dcbb45e4b04ae49704bcf3?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:31 pm

So there's a really strong rumor about the new book coming out next year. This year was published this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Dunk_and_Egg#Planned_installments
Also, today came out an article about all the spoilers for next season. I'm posting it on here because I will piss everyone on the show thread. You guys seem more tolerant and you've been warned...
***SPOILERS AHEAD***
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/oct/28/game-of-thrones-spoilers-season-six
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