game of thrones (book) with spoilers

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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Mescal » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:06 pm

who is lady Stoneheart again?

Ygritte gets killed during the first attack (but that was also inside castle black, no?) Mance gets captured in the second attack, when Stannis comes to the rescue
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:12 pm

Catelyn Stark resuscitated.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Mescal » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:52 pm

Does that happen so soon? Can't really remember. Isn't that around the time when the hound is dying? Or is he dying en the series? :)

I wonder how they will depict her. I have a very eeuuuhh, gore, picture of her in my head. Lady Stoneheart from the series will never match that
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:49 am

Oh God, when was the Hound dying? I should read the books more carefully. Doesn't Arya leave him all hurt? I remember he went with some other dudes on a rampage.
These are only depictions of what she *might* look like...I've always thought she was a bitch, so now she's going to be a mega bitch. It does happen in the end of Storm of Swords, so I think she will make an appearance.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Mescal » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:46 pm

Yeah, she leaves him all hurt, and then he dies from his infested wound, no? Then he meets Lady Stoneheart and the troups (what's the name again of that dude that dies several times?)
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:29 am

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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:14 am

Even though I really liked last night's episode, I agree with this:
Hey, book readers, where was that ending we were all waiting for?! You know the one. The exciting Deus Ex Stannis-at-the-Wall?! I suppose they're saving that reveal for the finale, but that feels foolish given how many other things they need to accomplish in that episode. If Ygritte’s death wasn’t going to land with an emotionally satisfying thud, then wouldn’t we have been mollified by the arrival of Stannis and the Dragonstone cavalry? And wouldn’t that have been the first time show watchers would have been actually pleased to see Stannis? Oh he’s still coming. But now his big moment will be drowned in a sea of even bigger moments. Now Stannis won’t get his time in the spotlight (story of his life) and, as we all know, the show version of Stannis could use all the help he could get in the popularity department.

http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/game-of-thrones-danger-of-stretching-out-plots
All in all, I think they did a very good job. If GoT had been done in movies and with all the details, I think it would have been done in at least 14 movies, so I can't complain. They can trim away...
For me just the first appearance of Lady Stoneheart with end this season with a bang. I saw want to see that!
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:38 am

Bloody hell!! My English sucks when I get excited *with end = would end, *I saw=I so
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Essence_Smith » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:43 pm

I haven't gotten to Stoneheart in the books yet, but my cousin spoiled this for me while I was still watching season 2 of the show and hadn't read any of the books...I'm about to get the damn audio books just to catch up...for some reason my cousin mentioned hearing that they weren't going to include the character. Without giving up too much...could they do the story without that character???
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:49 pm

At this point, they have so many loose ends that I still don't know how they are going to end this season. Book 3 (A Storm of Swords) ends with her appearance and I almost shat myself reading it.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Mescal » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:00 pm

perkana wrote:At this point, they have so many loose ends that I still don't know how they are going to end this season. Book 3 (A Storm of Swords) ends with her appearance and I almost shat myself reading it.


Really? I thought that was really going over the top
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:46 pm

I almost did :lol: I didn't expect it.
Last book has a lot of OMFG moments though.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Essence_Smith » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:17 pm

perkana wrote:I almost did :lol: I didn't expect it.
Last book has a lot of OMFG moments though.

My cousin actually texted me a few weeks ago and spoiled that part...he said of the TV show "too bad, no zombies"...I was like huh? And he let the cat out of the bag basically.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:02 pm

My brother has read all the books but he's very behind on the show. He gets mad at me for telling him about what has happened on the show :crazy:
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:01 pm

Don't watch it if you don't want spoilers. I thought this was pretty cool. Had already read about this theory, but I liked how this guy explained it with book references.
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:09 am

Don't read this if you don't want to get spoilers...Now that this might happen, I really wouldn't like it. But knowing him, GRRM has to kill half of my favorite characters so I guess I would look forward to how it ends.
Game of Thrones: George R.R. Martin Admits Readers Have Already Accurately Predicted the Ending
The author admitted during the Edinburgh International Book Festival that some clever readers have already figured out how it’s all going to tie up:

GRRM wrote:So many readers were reading the books with so much attention that they were throwing up some theories and while some of those theories were amusing bulls—and creative, some of the theories are right. At least one or two readers had put together the extremely subtle and obscure clues that I'd planted in the books and came to the right solution.

http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/2014/08/game-of-thrones-george-rr-martin-readers-have-predicted-ending?mbid=social_fbshare
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Sun May 03, 2015 9:28 pm

I agree completely...
Five of the most significant plotlines which were spread out through both books seem on track to reach the end of their book content by the end of the year based on how fast they’re moving. That includes Cersei sparring with the Sparrows, Arya training to be a Faceless Man, Jon assuming command of the Night’s Watch, Tyrion traveling to Mereen, and Daenerys having trouble keeping hold of the city. It remains to be seen just how much will be cut from each storyline in order to fit them all into a single season, but so far, all are moving at a brisk pace and will likely leave out details from the books. Fans may protest that, but the showrunners have made that work before.

I’ve been most impressed with the plotlines Benioff and Weiss are outright combining. Jaime Lannister has been moved from messing about in the Riverlands doing nothing of note in the books to taking over Aerys Oakheart’s Dorne plotline which will be assuredly made more interesting by his presence (and he’s bringing Bronn along for good measure). But the crowning editing “jewel” comes in the form of Sansa/Littlefinger/Roose/Ramsay/Theon/Brienne/Pod all coming together in single storyline that combines three disparate sets of the characters who never met up in the books. Brienne and Pod will try to save Sansa from the Boltons after she’s promised to Ramsay, while Littlefinger uses the union to acquire more allies and power. Sansa will have to fend off Ramsay when he inevitably turns hostile, and may have to rely on old frienemy Theon for help with that. It’s a fascinating dance that takes seven characters and stiches them all together in a way that makes a surprising amount of sense. This is a prime example of how this “four books in three seasons” idea is even possible. The showrunners have done a great job editing the books to date, but now they’re taking things to a new level.
All of this is to say that yes, it does seem likely that by the end of season five, we will see 2200 pages of two books on screen, in some form or another. This will come with causalities, of course. I predict we will never see Stoneheart or Penny the Dwarf, and I have a hunch the Iron Islands plotline will be cut, and so might Old and Young Griff’s appearance. Though some of these are major items, they seem like the kinds of things Benioff and Weiss will edit out or integrate into the show in a reduced capacity at best.

After that, the show has more freedom. George RR Martin will almost assuredly not release The Winds of Winter by the time season six has been written, and his seventh book will not be out for years after that. That means the showrunners don’t even have to cut fat anymore. They just consult with Martin for the broad strokes, and do their own “books” as seasons six and seven, and then end the show while it’s assuredly still soaring in the ratings.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/05/03/its-becoming-clear-game-of-thrones-will-end-at-season-seven/
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Mescal » Sun May 03, 2015 10:52 pm

I had a feeling from the books that the old and young Griff characters were very important ...
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby perkana » Mon May 04, 2015 9:32 am

So did I, but I guess for the sake of the show the producers have been doing a lot of editing. Like the storyline with Sansa. They didn't think it would do introducing a new character on the show (even if it wasn't a new one in the book) for the story of the Boltons. I'm not complaining actually, all the books have so many characters that sooner or later are going to die :lol:
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Re: game of thrones (book) with spoilers

Postby Xizen47 » Mon May 04, 2015 11:49 am

At the rate they're going, next season will be a complete mystery.

I'm good with it, though I'll probably be a bit confused reading book 6 (when it comes out in 2020)
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