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Re: True Detective

#181 Post by Jasper » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:01 pm

perkana wrote:Fuck yes!
But either the rumors were untrue or Moss passed on the project and now the female lead is all but confirmed to be Rachel McAdams. Why would Moss, who has already wrapped up her last episodes of Mad Men, pass on such a high-profile, prestige project? We may have the answer. It was announced yesterday that the Top of the Lake, the TV mini-series that garnered Moss a Golden Globe, will be coming back for a second season.
I love Rachel McAdams!
http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/ ... e-season-2
That's good news, alright. I think Mad Men is one of the greatest shows of all time, and I've come to accept Elizabeth Moss as a part of it, but I don't ever need to see her outside of that context. I would have been very disappointed if she were cast as a lead in True Detective.

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Re: True Detective

#182 Post by creep » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:48 pm

i like her but it's hard to imagine her as a detective. :noclue:

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Re: True Detective

#183 Post by Artemis » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:56 pm

http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/12/r ... eason-two/
BY MICHELLE GESLANION DECEMBER 11, 2014, 4:45PM

The forthcoming second season of HBO’s True Detective looks to be packing some real star power. Just months ago it was revealed that Rachel McAdams, Vince Vaughn, and Colin Farrell would be starring in the upcoming iteration of the show. Now, E! reports that Rick Springfield — yes, that Rick Springfield — has also signed on with the hit crime drama.

“Just finished my 1st day of shooting for season 2 of HBO’s True Detective,” the “Jessie’s Girl” rocker tweeted yesterday. “What a great script. Working w/ Colin Farrell & Rachel McAdams!”

Details are scarce regarding Springfield’s role, including whether he’ll be a guest or regular on the series. The Australian musician’s past acting credits list stints on General Hospital, Californication, and Hot in Cleveland.

The Nic Pizzolatto-written second season of True Detective is currently in production and will be directed by a handful of folks, such as Community’s Justin Lin. It is expected to air on HBO next summer.

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Re: True Detective

#184 Post by creep » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:59 pm

that can't be a current pic can it? the guy has to be close to 60.

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#185 Post by Artemis » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:07 pm

He's 65! I looked it up.

Here's a pic from earlier this year.





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#186 Post by Jasper » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:53 pm

First of all, Rick Springfield? Weird. I haven't really heard about him doing anything since I was a little kid. Good for him, I guess. If he can actually act, then...OK.

Anyway, the first picture makes him look like he's in his early-to-mid thirties. The second one looks significantly older, but more like something in the 45-52 range. Would never guess 65. Dude's gotta be getting botox, but maybe he also has a good diet/exercise regimen, and stays out of the sun. :noclue:

Vince Vaughan and Rick Springfield. :hs: Not quite what I was expecting, but I'll stay open-minded.

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#187 Post by creep » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:02 pm

i would assume that rick will have a pretty small part. :noclue:

good to hear that they are filming already.

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Re: True Detective

#188 Post by chaos » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:49 am

Season 2 trailer:


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#189 Post by perkana » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:01 pm

Don't know about you guys, but it looks like it's going to be great. Colin Farrell looks amazing (as well as Vince :wink: )

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#190 Post by Jasper » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:10 pm

It looks like it might be good, though it has nothing on the first preview of season one.

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#191 Post by clickie » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:37 am

Looks like a bunch of depressed people staring at each other.

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#192 Post by perkana » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:13 am

:lol: that's what I thought when I saw this again last night

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#193 Post by clickie » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:16 pm

All jokes aside, the cast is top-notch this new season.

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#194 Post by clickie » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:04 am

perkana wrote:Don't know about you guys, but it looks like it's going to be great. Colin Farrell looks amazing (as well as Vince :wink: )
I've been a fan of Colin Farrell for a while.


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#195 Post by creep » Thu May 14, 2015 6:43 pm


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#196 Post by creep » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:34 am

the reviews aren't great for the second season. i think they only get three or four episodes though. :noclue:

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/true-detective/season-2

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#197 Post by Jasper » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:42 pm

creep wrote:the reviews aren't great for the second season. i think they only get three or four episodes though. :noclue:

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/true-detective/season-2
Well, to me the first three or four episodes of the first season were the best. Can't say I'm shocked about the reviews either way (even though it's only seven reviews so far, and some are pretty positive). There was a lightning-in-a-bottle feel to the first season, especially with the chemistry between the two leads and with Cary Fukunaga directing the entire thing. Not to mention the fact that a second season has to be created much more quickly than the first, and it's not just a case of creating new stories for existing characters, but coming up with a new world, new characters, new everything, and it's just one guy writing all of that.

It was hard to get excited for something that's basically a completely different show than the one you liked. Nevertheless, there's a good chance I'll like it well enough to watch it all. Who knows, maybe unlike the first season it will get stronger as it goes.

Rotten Tomatoes has it at 67% positive with six reviews:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/true-detective/s02/

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#198 Post by Jasper » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:22 pm

Rotten Tomatoes added two reviews, for a total of eight, and the score has gone from 67% to 75%.

Metacritic's got eight reviews and it's still at 62%. I haven't checked if they're the same reviews as the ones on Rotten Tomatoes. I don't really know how these review aggregators calculate their scores, or if one tends to give higher scores than the other.

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Re: True Detective

#199 Post by Jasper » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:37 pm

RT now has it at 62% with 26 votes. That said, the "critics consensus" that they provide once there are a sufficient number of reviews doesn't make it sound horrible.
Critics Consensus: True Detective's second season stands on its own as a solid police drama, with memorable moments and resonant relationships outweighing predictable plot twists.

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#200 Post by creep » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:07 pm

unfortunately it has a lot to live up to.

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#201 Post by Artemis » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:05 pm

spoilers lay ahead...kv edit


Just read this good review from The Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/tel ... ice=mobile
John Doyle: True Detective, season two – Fiercely good, but even more morose

Every character is guarded, mirthless. The landscape, in California, not far north of Los Angeles, is at once reassuringly familiar and faintly menacing. Looking at it, this stale, desiccated place, you know it is bereft of nourishment and grace.

On the evidence of the first few hours of the second season of True Detective (Sunday, HBO Canada at 9 p.m.), there is nothing in it to cheer you, nothing to even give you a wry smile. It is formidably focused on deeply troubled people. It is set in a country that the author sees as depleted, drained of joy.

And that is its strength, if you have the grit to concentrate and stay with it. If you think there’s a consensus that this production is a fail, by far a lesser drama than the first season, then you are wrong.

It is different yes. It is lacking the magic chemistry of Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson and doesn’t have Emmy-winning director Cary Fukunaga extrapolating a striking visual sumptuousness from writer Nic Pizzolatto’s story of two complex cops trying to solve a complex murder case anchored in occult killings. In that first season, the chemistry was often everything, more vital than the murder mystery.

What it does have, this second season, is Pizzolatto’s constancy as a writer. His glum view of humanity and vision of the United States as a place to give up on, long past its prime, infected with a pestilence you can’t quite name but you see, smell and recognize.

It stars Colin Farrell, Vince Vaughn, Rachel McAdams and Taylor Kitsch, and around them an impressive group of character actors. There’s a murder and a mystery to solve, one that, from the get-go, is drenched in depravity. Everyone is tightly wound and wounded. Much of it, like the first season, is rooted in conversations, some formal – a lawyer interviewing a damaged cop, a boss tersely upbraiding an employee – and some seemingly throwaway. But just out of the frame, just out of reach, always, is this sense of degradation.

Farrell plays Ray Velcoro, the first major character we meet. Ray is a tense, depressed man. His wife, from whom he’s long separated, was beaten and raped some years before. They had a boy and Ray now has the boy in his care a few days a month. He tells a lawyer in one of those strained conversations in heavily air-conditioned rooms that typify the series, that, no, he won’t do a paternity test. Never has, never will.

We learn from various shifts in time and setting that after Ray’s wife was raped, he wanted personal revenge and sought the help of a mobster, Frank Semyon (Vaughn), in finding the pervert who committed the crime. Now and forever, Frank has Ray in his pocket.

If viewers think Ray is an unsettling mess of a person, along comes Ani Bezzerides (McAdams), a detective who, on introduction, is identified as a woman who loathes intimacy of any kind. She also has a knife fetish and appears to hold everything together by imagining the damage she could do to a man with one of those knives. The name Ani is short for Antigone. Her father, introduced early, is a peddler of hippie cant.

Even the smooth mobster Frank is a mess of seething insecurities. He’s been trying to become a legitimate businessman, buying up land in anticipation of a high-speed train corridor linking L.A. to northern California. His connection to orthodox business is a corrupt city manager, a man who has gone missing when the drama opens. When he’s found dead, all the major characters are drawn into the case.

Before the missing man is found dead, we know something about him. Mainly his sexual preferences. And it’s from this fact that everything radiates outward. In True Detective’s first season, the overriding theme, beneath the angsty conversations between the McConaughey and Harrelson characters, was Pizzolatto’s message that America is in a postindustrial period, ruined and rife with abnormal urges and impulses. The same applies here.

This True Detective is not for anyone in search of the superficial, the surface verve of dry wit and the intrigue of a complex mystery. It is a studied, morose stare at an unhappy place. The currency of this place is sex, the code is corruption, the mood is fierce unhappiness.

Fun, it isn’t, this drama. Fiercely good and challenging is what it is. It doesn’t duplicate the first season of True Detective; it depresses it into something even more corrosive.

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Re: True Detective

#202 Post by Jasper » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:25 pm

Thanks, though spoilery reviews annoy the piss out of me. I stop reading when I realize they're going to reveal too much for my tastes, but sometimes it's too late and I've picked up some info that I'd rather have gotten from actually watching the story unfold.

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Re: True Detective

#203 Post by Artemis » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:59 pm

Sorry about that, Jasper(and others). I didn't even think to add a little warning like: Some references to plot and character ahead.

Unfortunately, the time has expired to edit the post. Maybe creep or kv could add a spoler alert warning,


Sorry. :sad:

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Re: True Detective

#204 Post by Jasper » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:21 am

Don't worry about it. I'm really speaking more generally. I've run into several such reviews for the second season. Sometimes they just launch into spoilers with no warning. It's perfectly possible to write a review with no real spoilers whatsoever, but that takes actual effort. I've accidentally absorbed some very little bits of information about the characters and their situations. It's not much, but I'd rather begin with nothing. When I watched the first season, I had no idea what was going to happen or who any of these characters were. I'd seen the promo, and while that made it look really promising, I couldn't make heads or tails of what was going on. The first episode just naturally drew me in, and part of that was the fun of figuring out what was going on and who those characters were.

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Re: True Detective

#205 Post by Jasper » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:51 pm

Think how exciting it would be if we were about to see Rust an Marty again. :sad:

Oh well, I'm not watching anything except for Wayward Pines (and I'm not so sure I'd recommend that show), so it'll be good to have a Sunday show to watch now that GoT is finished for the season.

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