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Re: The Cult

#61 Post by kv » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:55 am

Pandemonium wrote:
NYRexall wrote:Perry and Ian should do an Egopolooza festival sometime. You wouldn't be able to fit both of them in the same venue, let alone fill it with people interested.
You know Ian thinks Perry stole the whole (Lollapalooza) touring festival idea away from him after Ian organized the Gathering Of The Tribes thing in 1990 (which was a pretty decent lineup - The Cramps and Iggy Pop at the same show?!?).
mainly because perry prob did

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Re: The Cult

#62 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:32 am

Pretty stoked I managed to score a GA Pit ticket last night when Ticketmaster released a few remaining tickets for the upcoming LA Wiltern show. Plus, they added The Icarus Line as an opening band along with White Hills (never heard of 'em) so I'm in.

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Re: The Cult

#63 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:26 pm

Pandemonium wrote:Pretty stoked I managed to score a GA Pit ticket last night when Ticketmaster released a few remaining tickets for the upcoming LA Wiltern show. Plus, they added The Icarus Line as an opening band along with White Hills (never heard of 'em) so I'm in.
Aww fuck, I just got an e-mail from Ticketbastard that Icarus Line is out of the lineup.

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Re: The Cult

#64 Post by Pandemonium » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:33 am

Saw The Cult tonight at The Wiltern in LA. Much better than last year's Hollywood Palladium show.

I had landed a GA pit ticket in the Ticketmaster release a couple weeks ago and got to the show about 15 minutes before opening band White Hills came on. The pit was pretty sparse and I could go right up to the rail just off to the side and catch their set. White Hills, a three piece, started off really promising, a decent mix of Led Zeppelin and Sonic Youth. The blond on bass was really easy on the eyes. But by about the 4th song, their long, mostly instrumental stoner rock started to wear thin and a few songs later, I was off to the bar.

The Cult came on about 9:45 and played the "Electric" album straight through, only subbing the great B-side cut "Zap City" in place of the (terrible) cover of "Born To Be Wild" which was on the album. They took about a 10 minute break while a dumb video clip played on the projection screen (it included clips from "Conan The Barbarian"...wtf?!?). They came back and played a respectable 2nd set and encore which as far as I know, was the standard set they've been playing this tour.

Good points - a lot of deeper cuts from the Electric album that I've never heard live before, played fairly faithfully. Also, songs that get regular air time most tours like Nirvana, The Phoenix, Rise and Spiritwalker sounded great. The big "hits" like Love Removal Machine and She Sells Sanctuary not played as encore closers as usual is a nice twist although closing with "Sun King" wasn't a perfect alternative.

The band, especially Billy Duffy was solid. No Billy vs guitar tech issues tonight and he seemed pretty happy the entire show. The only song I think really lost the audience was "Embers." The new 2nd guitarist has a pretty easy job from a musicians' standpoint, as anyone who knows The Cult's catalog can attest. I will say he looked uncomfortably like a well dressed Michael Douglas. Ian Astbury sang significantly better than last year's show although he had his downside as mentioned below. Late in the set, Ian tossed a tambourine right to an older guy dead center in the pit who was clearly having a great time rocking out and putting most of the younger fucks to shame.

Bad Points - Mostly Ian's more or less disconnected stage presence. Through the Electric set, he barely addressed the audience and when he did, it was often in a condescending manner. Frankly, he looked bored at times and really didn't seemed fully engaged until the last half dozen songs. Late in the show, he began whining about the audience, often telling them they "need to work, work for it," I guess because the place wasn't going nuts after every song. For the most part, the crowd was pretty into it, especially during much of the 2nd set and encore. It's getting old hearing Astbury bitch about crowd participation when he's the guy onstage who should be getting the (paying) audience into the show.

Setlist:

Wild Flower
Peace Dog
Lil' Devil
Aphrodisiac Jacket
Electric Ocean
Bad Fun
King Contrary Man
Love Removal Machine
Zap City
Outlaw
Memphis Hip Shake
*break*
Rain
Honey From a Knife
Sweet Soul Sister
Lucifer
Embers
The Phoenix
Rise
She Sells Sanctuary
Encore:
Spiritwalker
Nirvana
Sun King

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Re: The Cult

#65 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:57 pm

This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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Re: The Cult

#66 Post by blackcoffee » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:46 pm

Pandemonium wrote:This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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I'm excited to see The Cult again. I passed on Echo, The Jesus and Mary Chain, and Jane's this year, but I'm down for the Cult.

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Re: The Cult

#67 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:49 am

blackcoffee wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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I'm excited to see The Cult again. I passed on Echo, The Jesus and Mary Chain, and Jane's this year, but I'm down for the Cult.
They've changed out their rhythm guitarist and bass player recently and apparently are going for a more 60's Doors style keyboard sound on their next album due at the end of the year.

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Re: The Cult

#68 Post by blackcoffee » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:10 am

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blackcoffee wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:This is a great pairing. I'm kinda burnt on The Cult but I'll happily see Primal Scream again. Will definitely catch the Palladium show in Hollywood. These are *some* of the dates - there's some others not yet listed on TM/LN in places like Houston for late Oct:

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I'm excited to see The Cult again. I passed on Echo, The Jesus and Mary Chain, and Jane's this year, but I'm down for the Cult.
They've changed out their rhythm guitarist and bass player recently and apparently are going for a more 60's Doors style keyboard sound on their next album due at the end of the year.
I'd read that they changed their rhythm guitarist and bass player, which seems counter intuitive as they'd been a real band since Born Into This. Do you think adding the keyboard precipitated the change? Bill defended the keyboard by suggesting they'd toured with a keyboardist extensively in the past.

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Re: The Cult

#69 Post by Artemis » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:51 pm

New song from new album ( out on Feb 5)...

I wish The Cult would come out my way;it's been a long time. Maybe in the new year...



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Re: The Cult

#70 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:39 pm

Artemis wrote:New song from new album ( out on Feb 5)...

I wish The Cult would come out my way;it's been a long time. Maybe in the new year...


Not bad, but the obvious drum loop gets old real quick. I hope they throw in some deep cuts to round out the inevitable burnout tunes they play every show when I see them in a couple weeks at The Palladium.

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Re: The Cult

#71 Post by creep » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:51 pm

Artemis wrote:New song from new album ( out on Feb 5)...

I wish The Cult would come out my way;it's been a long time. Maybe in the new year...


that's ok. the mix is weird though. the vocals are too low.

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Re: The Cult

#72 Post by kv » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:59 am



what drum loop made me think of

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Re: The Cult

#73 Post by Hype » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:21 am

kv wrote:

what drum loop made me think of
A little, but it's slower and more tribal. Like Song Yet to Be Sung.


They're all in 4/5 though, I think? (I'm not great at music theory, usually I try to guess by feel...)

It also kinda sounds like:



And:


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Re: The Cult

#74 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:01 pm

BTW, Chris Cheney was the bass player on the new album.

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Re: The Cult

#75 Post by Hype » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:12 pm

They're all in 4/5 though, I think? (I'm not great at music theory, usually I try to guess by feel...)
I ... don't remember writing this... but I'm pretty sure I meant 5/4 or 5/8... or... some other actual time signature...

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Re: The Cult

#76 Post by Pandemonium » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:57 am

Went to the show last night. My 4th Palladium gig seeing the band ('85, '95, '12 and last night) and I think my 16th or 17th Cult show altogether. I probably wouldn't have done this show if Primal Scream wasn't the support.

First off, I'm glad I left for Hollywood from Huntington Beach early, it was an epic slow drive, took me over 2 hours to get there. Parked in a lot a couple blocks away and got in the Palladium about 7:30 and there was maybe just a couple hundred people inside. I had heard Primal Scream had been starting at 7:30 sharp but fortunately that wasn't the case, they started around 8:30 and the placed had filled up nicely by that time. I had about an hour to craft my buzz but the shitty alcohol they serve (no Bacardi? no Kahlua?) kept it to a few JD and Cokes.

Honestly, I was really disappointed in Primal Scream this show. This tour, it's just the five guys and a lot of backing samples (the keyboard guy is almost hidden behind the guitar rig). I saw them almost exactly 2 years ago at the smaller, nearby Fonda Theater and they blew me away. This show, I think the crummy sound mix did them no favors. 2nd song "Accelerator" sounded positively weak. The first few songs of the set, it was all bass and vocals, the drums sounded like a kid hitting a tissue box and the guitar was really low in the mix under much of the samples they use. They played about a dozen plus songs, highlights being Jailbird, Swastika Eyes and set closer "Rocks." I was bummed they didn't play Higher Than The Sun which can be a big highlight of their set.

The Cult came on about 10:15 opening with a kind of screwy version of Horse Nation that took a bit to take flight. The sound mix was nice and ear-splittingly loud, with Billy's guitar right up front. As almost par for the course, what's a Cult show without tech problems - the first few songs, Billy and Ian kept yelling at the offstage sound guy to adjust the stage monitor sound. 2nd song Rain was where things really took off and they kept the momentum going with Nirvana. New song Dark Energy was played mid-set and while the pounding drumbeat works well live, the song kinda needs work live to completely come together. The new arrangement of The Witch is... different... but with all the flowery theremin effects from new keyboard/2nd guitar guy Damon Fox and stop/start pacing of the song, it's not the best live version. Honey From A Knife and Gone kind of dragged the show down but the crowd loved Wild Flower although things kind of slowed again for Wonderland and the reworked version of SSS. But the main set ended with full crowd energy for Fire Woman and Sanctuary. The encore was cool with Jerry Cantrell joining for The Phoenix and a tubby Steve Jones (who looked like he was going to burst out of his ill-fitting clothes!) for LRM complete with old school mosh pit up front.

Overall, a much better show than the 2012 Palladium show where the band was at the end of a tour and looked beat. Ian is putting on the pounds but still has plenty of energy and when he gets into it and not a cranky whiner like some shows I've seen in the past, he's still a great frontman. Yes, he's not the singer he was in the 80's and he kind of barks the songs these days but he still has much of his trademark distinctive voice and has a long way to go before he's in say, David Lee Roth, Geddy Lee or Perry territory. The new lineup opens up a lot of potential. Damon Fox as the all-around utility guy handling 2nd guitar and keys adds a lot of dimension to the live sound, I think they need to better work him into the old songs - his role in The Witch doesn't work for that song. I thought it was kind of funny how new bass player Grant Fitzpatrick dresses and looks a *lot* like 2015 Billy Duffy onstage. The crowd was pretty well behaved, into the bands and they place looked pretty filled by the time The Cult came on. There was a few knuckleheads, early on during The Cult's set a fight broke out in the middle of the floor and I saw more than a few trashed glazed-eyed guys stumbling out who hopefully didn't drive home. But overall, the asshole factor was low. The Palladium is still a great place to see a show even if all the towering new buildings being built around it make parking a PITA.

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Re: The Cult

#77 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:45 pm

The Cult covered Bowie's "Moonage Daydream" last week in Nottingham:


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Re: The Cult

#78 Post by Artemis » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:30 am

I enjoyed watching this. If you have an hour to spare, check out the vid..
Guitar Pr0n: The Sound and Style of the Cult’s Billy Duffy
How does Billy Duffy get those guitar noises for songs like “She Sells Sanctuary,” “Rain” and “Fire Woman?” This Ernie Ball/DirecTv special (via Michael) seeks to find out.


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