Aint No Right

i read today that michelle bachmann promised that she will bring back $2 gas. she is obviously going for the mentally challenged vote. it's sad that many may believe that she will have the power to make that happen.

creep wrote:i read today that michelle bachmann promised that she will bring back $2 gas. she is obviously going for the mentally challenged vote. it's sad that many may believe that she will have the power to make that happen.

I kind of hope she get the nominee, or breaks up the GOP even more.

I didn't want to start a nother thread...I am putting this here.

Artemis wrote:I didn't want to start a nother thread...I am putting this here.

Very true, and pretty much the same ideology as Bill Hicks.

chaos wrote:

It always amazes me that the people running our government and making life changing polices, are some of the least capable and informed people all-around to do so. I assume this guy fancies himself a doctor?

It's an empirically verified fact that conservative tendencies (both economic and social) correlate with less ability to empathize, especially outside one's immediate circle.

The Stoics called that outer-circle empathizing oikeiosis, and it was considered the best moral thing to do.

It's pretty scary when men can't even figure out basic needs of women though... What are minorities supposed to do when the majority of the world is being held hostage by idiots?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/2 ... 74586.html

But seriously, I'm not that far from the Montagnards these days.

Leland Yee, the gun grabbing, video game blaming CA state senator (D) who was recently arrested on corruption charges for taking bribes and GUN RUNNING with people tied to the Chinese mafia and Islamic terrorist groups.



pretty hard to beat that one.

Dianne Feinstein and Eric Holder.

P.S. Nobody gives me the creeps like Mitch McConnell.

Jasper wrote:Dianne Feinstein and Eric Holder.

P.S. Nobody gives me the creeps like Mitch McConnell.

You probabaly shouldn't google #mcconnelling

regarding american party politicians, i despise most of 'em and brand just about all of them as hypocrites who are much more similar than they are different. i have particular disdain for the present GOP but don't you dare lump me in with that pile of namby pamby democrats.

since they all worship lobbying dollars and practice hypocrisy, i'm not about to choose between the mcconnell's or the pelosi's of the world. different versions of the same patronage driven policy for sale assholes.

i focus on those who are and were most committed to fucking with liberty or practice the most vile sort of bigotry.
the list is plenty long but i'll just go with dick cheney, antonin scalia and the biggest twat of them all, rudolf guiliani (about whom, in fairness, having been in my apartment two blocks from the World Trade Center on 9-11, i'll always say that if you can absolutely guaranty that airplanes will fly into buildings, he can be my mayor but aside from the 10 days after that happens, isn't qualified to be dog catcher).

Interesting you include Scalia as a politician

tubro wrote:the biggest twat of them all, rudolf guiliani (about whom, in fairness, having been in my apartment two blocks from the World Trade Center on 9-11, i'll always say that if you can absolutely guaranty that airplanes will fly into buildings, he can be my mayor but aside from the 10 days after that happens, isn't qualified to be dog catcher).

Say what you will about Rudy and the tactics he and his corrupt police commissioner used at the time, there were parts of Brooklyn you couldn't even walk through without getting robbed before they did what they did...I grumbled at the "quality of life" enforcement etc in my late teens but looking back they cleaned up a lot of mess that Dinkins and Koch left...they did it like some thugs, but they did clean this place up considerably...

Cheney even in retirement remains the biggest cancer in American politics since Nixon.

What about the IRS and the cover up that is going on there.

LJF wrote:What about the IRS and the cover up that is going on there.

No surprise. An government institution operating with relative impunity like the I.R.S. with all it's far reaching power is bound to have corruption and scandal. The bullshit with the "lost" e-mails and amazing coincidences of crashed computers and their disposal is such a flagrant cover-up, it's mind boggling that criminal indictments haven't already been handed down.

On a related subject, I was the subject of a 5 year audit when I was in my early 20's and wound up owing the IRS about $10k which took me about a decade to pay off. They can really fuck up your life even if you're in the right.

They were clearly operating at the behest of the the president. Sadly, every time a president commits corrupt acts and gets away with it, the following presidents (whether dem or repub) will take advantage of those precedents. Both parties are utterly rotten and anti-American, but partisan dupes amongst the citizenry might want to consider that the corrupt actions they believe to be working in their favor will later be used by the other side.

Jasper wrote:They were clearly operating at the behest of the the president.

Why is that clear? What evidence is there of that?

I ask because I have not seen anything nearly that clear cut...

I think it's evident from his actions and the actions of the IRS under his administration. They were scaring off Republican donors to help him win in 2012. The issue is the destruction/hiding of communications, most likely with the higher ups in his administration, and within the IRS. Every single one of us knows full well that the IRS is lying about that. I'd be shocked if even the most devoted Democrats among us would deny this reality. Beyond that, the president's motive, actions, and lack of investigative action (Holder? Really?) indicate his involvement. This should be a Watergate-level event. The brazen manipulation of events implicates him, but the corruption and chutzpah is so great with these folks that they'll probably just continue lying, obfuscating, and blocking until the issue dies with a whimper. I hope I'm wrong.

I dislike Dems and Repubs. For the diehard Dems/liberals out there, think how terrifying this would be if it were a Republican administration at work. Getting to the bottom of this should be a non-partisan issue, if any of us really care about justice.

This thread has gone off track since LJF's invocation of the IRS "scandal," unless the bulk of comments since are directed at "overlord Obama," and we've already bandied back and forth on the IRS "targeting" issue long ago. While we're back on it, though, I don't think many people other than those employed at Fox and who subscribed to Fox's fair and balanced bullshit give more than one shit, let alone two about this issue (which is not to say the IRS should act with impunity, etc.). The indignity over groups self-identified as aligned with a political agenda being self-strictly reviewed for and/or denied tax-exempt status is about as empty as the "I built that" meme and has nothing to do with historical examples of the IRS harassing people like Pande or MLK, infringing on their personal liberties, and so on.