Black Lives Matter/Liberal Agenda

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Re: Black Lives Matter/Liberal Agenda

#26 Post by Hype » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:49 pm

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Re: Black Lives Matter/Liberal Agenda

#27 Post by mockbee » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:44 pm

I really hope it's not true, that he will never resonate beyond the middle/working class white vote. I just can't see it happening.

Dean and Nader couldn't get a broader base interested in income inequality, climate change & getting big money out of politics, so why would Bernie be more successful. :noclue:

You might say they were/are kooks, but Bernie's kind of a kook himself. The appeal needs to be beyond policies. Unless your name is Bubba or Jimmy, good luck. :nod:

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Re: Black Lives Matter/Liberal Agenda

#28 Post by Hype » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:26 am

There's nothing kooky about Sanders, except maybe his hair. The guy has been an elected politician for a long time, and isn't just a one-note candidate.

To some degree, (black) people voted for Obama because he's black. No white democratic candidate will be able to resonate the same way. Plus, Obama's first campaign was an exceptional one in terms of social media awareness. I'd need to double-check but I'm also pretty sure he raised more money than Sanders has.

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Re: Black Lives Matter/Liberal Agenda

#29 Post by mockbee » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:50 am

Sanders reminds me a lot of Dean, two angry older white guys, veteran politicians from New England with very salient points. Dean served as an elected official in the Vermont House and as Governor for over 20 years.

If Sanders actually pulls out a victory in Iowa, the media will come down on him hard, like scary hard. Maybe we are approaching the post mainstream media mindfuck monopoly, but I don't know if we are there yet. The glimmer of hope (?) is the way republicans have responded to Trump after Fox and the rest of the media have repeatedly tried to derail him.

I don't know if people are completely fed up and stupid or completely fed up and smart, probably a lot of both, just hope it's enough. Because completely fed up and resigned gives us Hillary vs Jeb. :noclue:


Sanders does have a strong civil rights background and that will help if the message actually gets out. He's got to go deep though, like way out of the comfort of the Boston, Madison, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland cycle and beyond the stark white states of IA and NH. The first message that minorities get from Bernie can't be from the media (after the Iowa caucus), it has to be from him. Right now they aren't getting it, two-thirds don't even know who he is, and of that third who do, only about a quarter even like him.

If it ends of being Bernie vs Jeb (or Trump) I wouldn't be so concerned. But Hillary already has the black (and minority) vote overwhelmingly on her side. http://www.gallup.com/poll/184547/clint ... icans.aspx

More blacks know who George Pataki, Ben Carson, Lindsay Graham, Rand Paul, Rick Santorum, Chris Christie, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz, Rick Perry, Jeb Bush and Donald Trump is before they recognize who Bernie Sanders is. Yes, those people represent the states where the majority of black people live. But how does Bernie penetrate that bubble before the media writes the obituary? Hillary doesn't have this problem.

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Re: Black Lives Matter/Liberal Agenda

#30 Post by mockbee » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:13 pm






In a recent poll, Sanders edged Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton for the first time in Iowa, beating her by 1 percentage point, and he is almost eight percentage points ahead of her in New Hampshire. But in South Carolina, Sanders trails Clinton by 45 percentage points, according to a recent poll.
Bernie Sanders tests presidential appeal with students, African-Americans at Benedict College

COLUMBIA

Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders tried out his fiery populist message at Benedict College on Saturday – part of the U.S. senator’s efforts to broaden his appeal to African-Americans and Southern Democrats.

About 1,000 people came to hear the U.S. senator from Vermont speak at the historically black college in Columbia – his first in a few stops planned around the state Saturday.

The crowd was diverse and mostly enthusiastic, giving Sanders several standing ovations.

But overall, the audience was more subdued than the nearly 3,000-person crowds that packed a steaming hot conference center in Columbia and waited in a long line to hear Sanders speak in Greenville last month.

Scattered in the bleachers at Benedict were a few clusters of young adults watching from the rear who appeared disinterested in Sanders’ outrage over income inequality and other plights of the working class. Some sat looking down at their phones. Others clapped occasionally.


But Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, succeeded in reaching a group of Benedict freshman who said, after hearing him speak, they could vote for him.

Dajana Baker, a freshman from Greenville, said Sanders came off as sincere to her and acted as though he really cares about people.

He's doing it from his heart, not because someone is paying him to do it. – Dajana Baker, Benedict freshman

“He’s doing it from his heart, not because someone is paying him to do it,” Baker said.

Sanders faces a tough battle to win over Democratic voters in South Carolina, where African-Americans traditionally make up a large part of that electorate.

To begin that work, Sanders had Cornel West, a professor, writer and national civil rights activist, introduce him. West touted the senator’s civil rights record and his commitment to helping the working class and the poor.

“He’s going to win because he represents so much of the best of the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr.,” a vociferous West said, his booming voice energizing the crowd.

“The condition of truth is to always allow suffering to speak ... That’s what brother Bernie Sanders stands for. That’s why we are here.”

The condition of truth is to always allow suffering to speak ... That’s what brother Bernie Sanders stands for. That’s why we are here. – Cornel West

In a speech similar to the one he gave in South Carolina last month, Sanders decried income inequality and the concentration of most of the nation’s wealth among the top 1 percent of Americans. He vowed to reverse the flow of dollars to the benefit of working-class people.

He said he would push for a trillion dollars to create jobs rebuilding the nation’s transportation infrastructure. He also wants to establish a $15 minimum wage, the key to boosting the economy, he said, by giving the nation’s lowest wage earners some disposable income.

Sanders directed parts of his speech toward college students, calling for free public college, criminal justice reforms and telling them that they are essential in forcing his so-called “political revolution.”

Baker, the Benedict student, and three of her freshman classmates were among the last people to leave the school’s gymnasium.

Saja Hargrow from Aiken said she appreciated Sanders talking about “people in jail, how when they come out, they go right back in, because we don’t really have a plan for them.”

Sanders “spoke really well, he connected to us,” said Marc Walker, drawn to the senator’s promise to fight for free-tuition at public colleges.

Walker’s mother is paying for his college education, he said, “and she’s a single parent,” so Sanders’ promise could really help his family.

After leaving Columbia, Sanders had stops in Florence and at Winthrop University in Rock Hill. Sanders said he has a lot of work to do in South Carolina to get his message to young and minority voters.

In a recent poll, Sanders edged Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton for the first time in Iowa, beating her by 1 percentage point, and he is almost eight percentage points ahead of her in New Hampshire. But in South Carolina, Sanders trails Clinton by 45 percentage points, according to a recent poll.

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