she might have just earned her own "deep thoughts by ashley" thread.Pandemonium wrote:Ashley Judd seems to be off her meds today...
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She is reciting a poem written by a 19 year old girl. She tells this to the crowd in the of the video. I assume the girl could not attend which is why she is reciting it.
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What real, visible effects are expected to be seen & felt as a direct result of these protests?
I mean, now he's Prez, isn't it a bit too late for any change to occur, or for him to not act upon whatever whim takes his fancy (within the bounds of what he can actually push thru congress to end up as law, of course)?
I mean, now he's Prez, isn't it a bit too late for any change to occur, or for him to not act upon whatever whim takes his fancy (within the bounds of what he can actually push thru congress to end up as law, of course)?
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nausearockpig wrote:What real, visible effects are expected to be seen & felt as a direct result of these protests?
WASHINGTON — Flint filmmaker Michael Moore had some simple advice, and a to-do list, for the throngs of people who converged on Washington on Saturday to protest the presidency of Donald Trump.
“I want you to make this a part of your new daily routine: Call Congress every single day,” he said. “Brush your teeth, make the coffee, walk the dog and call Congress.”
And referring to Trump’s speech about ending the carnage of crime in American cities, Moore added, “Mr. Trump we are here to vow to end the Trump carnage.”
Moore then rambled through stories about his support for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Democratic National Committee chairman candidate, U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota, and how he was a shy high school student who could barely get a date, but who ran for office — a seat on the Davison school board at the age of 18. Moore decried the transformation of his home state of Michigan from a blue to a red state when voters delivered a 10,704-vote victory to Trump on Nov. 8, the first time a Republican has won since 1988. "God, it's painful to state that Michigan is a red state," he said.
All the stories were meant to show that even an introverted young kid could blossom into an activist. He urged the crowd to take over the Democratic Party, run for office and join Planned Parenthood.
“Look at what we’ve already accomplished here today. The majority of Americans didn’t want Donald J. Trump in the White House and we’re here today as their representatives,” he said.
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Quoting Gloria Steinem:
"We are here and around the world for a deep democracy that says we will not be quiet, we will not be controlled, we will work for a world in which all countries are connected. God may be in the details, but the goddess is in connections. We are at one with each other, we are looking at each other, not up. No more asking daddy. We are linked. We are not ranked. And this is a day that will change us forever because we are together. Each of us individually and collectively will never be the same again."
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It's not so much the poem (although it's pretty eye-rolling), it's her 'interpretation" of it that's hilarious.chaos wrote:She is reciting a poem written by a 19 year old girl. She tells this to the crowd in the of the video. I assume the girl could not attend which is why she is reciting it.
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Yep I get that, people are rallying etc but what are they actually going to achieve? Protesting is all well and good, but what will it, and they do? (Cue Saw Gurerra's speech from the R1 trailers here hahahah).
What will calling congress do? What are they gonna call congress about, and expect to happen? Surely there's a plan to do something that will block Trump's ability to make these changes he's been promising?
Also, I found this amusing:
What will calling congress do? What are they gonna call congress about, and expect to happen? Surely there's a plan to do something that will block Trump's ability to make these changes he's been promising?
Also, I found this amusing:
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This clip from yesterday's inauguration made me laugh:
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It's pressure...pressure Cheeto's choices every day. Participate more by becoming an activist. Protest every week if you need to. A lot of people protested in the '60s against wars.
During one speech women were asked to become or support congress women. Michael Moore called for taking the Dem Party and inject new blood. It's a long road, but I thought calling congress representatives every day to repell Trump's cabinet choices is a good start.
During one speech women were asked to become or support congress women. Michael Moore called for taking the Dem Party and inject new blood. It's a long road, but I thought calling congress representatives every day to repell Trump's cabinet choices is a good start.
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Well I hope they can do something.perkana wrote:It's pressure...pressure Cheeto's choices every day. Participate more by becoming an activist. Protest every week if you need to. A lot of people protested in the '60s against wars.
During one speech women were asked to become or support congress women. Michael Moore called for taking the Dem Party and inject new blood. It's a long road, but I thought calling congress representatives every day to repell Trump's cabinet choices is a good start.
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I love Ashley Judd. She's brilliant. She's led an examined life. And as a cosmic consequence, she's gorgeous. I liked her recitation and that she took the time to memorize and perform it.
I went to the March. My only confusion was that it was inherently divisive. Women's issues are but one of the endangered with this madman.
I went to the March. My only confusion was that it was inherently divisive. Women's issues are but one of the endangered with this madman.
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Yeah I participated not so much to protest Trump's presidency itself, but what may/most likely will happen in regards to women's healthcare and reproductive rights, criminal justice system, healthcare in general, immigrants rights, black lives matter, etc. it was more of a statement to say whats about to happen is not okay and will be fought against.nausearockpig wrote:Well I hope they can do something.perkana wrote:It's pressure...pressure Cheeto's choices every day. Participate more by becoming an activist. Protest every week if you need to. A lot of people protested in the '60s against wars.
During one speech women were asked to become or support congress women. Michael Moore called for taking the Dem Party and inject new blood. It's a long road, but I thought calling congress representatives every day to repell Trump's cabinet choices is a good start.
i found it very empowering and inspiring to be among so many people - i think 400-500k showed up in nyc. to use a cliche, there were people of all shapes and sizes and colors, men women children, black white asian hispanic etc. it was cool to be a part of and now the real work of resistance and pressure starts.
edit: and its obviously not to say that this work just started yesterday - obviously, people have been fighting for these rights, or to retain some of these rights. but with the presidency becoming official and all branches becoming republican/right-wing, it just got even harder
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Yeah I find the impending changes to women's rights (amongst other things of course) disgusting.farrellgirl99 wrote:Yeah I participated not so much to protest Trump's presidency itself, but what may/most likely will happen in regards to women's healthcare and reproductive rights, criminal justice system, healthcare in general, immigrants rights, black lives matter, etc. it was more of a statement to say whats about to happen is not okay and will be fought against.nausearockpig wrote:Well I hope they can do something.perkana wrote:It's pressure...pressure Cheeto's choices every day. Participate more by becoming an activist. Protest every week if you need to. A lot of people protested in the '60s against wars.
During one speech women were asked to become or support congress women. Michael Moore called for taking the Dem Party and inject new blood. It's a long road, but I thought calling congress representatives every day to repell Trump's cabinet choices is a good start.
i found it very empowering and inspiring to be among so many people - i think 400-500k showed up in nyc. to use a cliche, there were people of all shapes and sizes and colors, men women children, black white asian hispanic etc. it was cool to be a part of and now the real work of resistance and pressure starts.
edit: and its obviously not to say that this work just started yesterday - obviously, people have been fighting for these rights, or to retain some of these rights. but with the presidency becoming official and all branches becoming republican/right-wing, it just got even harder
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I am so sick of fighting. I've fought for most of my adult life. I fought the Reagan Admin and I've fought Bush I & II. I worked at Planned Parenthood for 12 years (8 of them thankfully during the Clinton Admin) and had to fight the NYS besides the Federal Government. I've lobbied, I've marched, I've protested. I. AM. TIRED.
When will this all end. When will this be a non-sector?
And what pisses me off more is the apathy of some women, friends on FB who thought the march was "stupid". Or put the protesters down (I should add they were also the voters for the Mango Mussolini) One of which is a Police Officer and she just became detective. 6 people on the list, her name was number one but they took the 5 other men below her. She has 8 or 9 years on the street and was recently award the second highest honor in the Police Dept for a high profile arrest. So she was originally passed over on the list and wasn't accepted until the union stepped in. Sexism? Absolutely. Yet she DEGENERATED the women marching all over the world on Saturday. I didn't want to get into a pissing match with her but wanted to scream THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR YOU. The women before this protested so YOU COULD BE A COP.
When will this all end. When will this be a non-sector?
And what pisses me off more is the apathy of some women, friends on FB who thought the march was "stupid". Or put the protesters down (I should add they were also the voters for the Mango Mussolini) One of which is a Police Officer and she just became detective. 6 people on the list, her name was number one but they took the 5 other men below her. She has 8 or 9 years on the street and was recently award the second highest honor in the Police Dept for a high profile arrest. So she was originally passed over on the list and wasn't accepted until the union stepped in. Sexism? Absolutely. Yet she DEGENERATED the women marching all over the world on Saturday. I didn't want to get into a pissing match with her but wanted to scream THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR YOU. The women before this protested so YOU COULD BE A COP.
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Exactly! It's like they're blind or deaf. When I was watching the live feed, I had to turn the comments off. Some women actually wrote that if you as a woman wanted a better salary, you should get a degree. Like that's the problem.
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I thought so too. Very emotional and I love her southern accent.SR wrote:I love Ashley Judd. She's brilliant. She's led an examined life. And as a cosmic consequence, she's gorgeous. I liked her recitation and that she took the time to memorize and perform it.
I went to the March. My only confusion was that it was inherently divisive. Women's issues are but one of the endangered with this madman.
Well, it was women's march, but I thought it covered more than women's issues.
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This is hilarious. The most hilarious!
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Pandemonium wrote:This clip from yesterday's inauguration made me laugh:
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Artemis wrote:This is hilarious. The most hilarious!
Ah - so many clips, so little time.
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Gotta grab me some ponyArtemis wrote:This is hilarious. The most hilarious!
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Jesus fucking christ.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/d ... 8540990e96
Maybe someone can clarify what gives anyone else the right to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body..... fucking hell....
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/d ... 8540990e96
Maybe someone can clarify what gives anyone else the right to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body..... fucking hell....
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As strongly against this legislation as I am, the headlines are slightly misleading. It's true that the effect is anti-abortion, but it's a weird piece of legislation because it's ostensibly a restriction on foreign aid. It's not directly a restriction on abortion rights. It's a restriction on what American-funded clinics in foreign countries can say/do with respect to abortion if they want to continue to receive funding.nausearockpig wrote:Jesus fucking christ.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/d ... 8540990e96
Maybe someone can clarify what gives anyone else the right to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body..... fucking hell....
That is, of course, clearly reprehensible, and woman are going to die as a result, but I think it's a sin of a different order of magnitude than, say, actively promoting anti-abortion views in these countries overtly, or trying to overturn Roe v. Wade or something.
It's easy to understand how libertarian-minded social conservatives can rationalize this: they will say it's about funding, not about telling anyone what they can and can't do. Of course, they're intentionally obfuscating the role of funding in all of this. But it's possible to play their game. Take their money and work around their legislation.
Btw, I think (though I might be mistaken about this) it's legislation that G.W. Bush had already passed, but which was repealed under Obama.
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Love this pup
"If Walmart could vomit......"
"If Walmart could vomit......"
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Hype wrote:As strongly against this legislation as I am, the headlines are slightly misleading. It's true that the effect is anti-abortion, but it's a weird piece of legislation because it's ostensibly a restriction on foreign aid. It's not directly a restriction on abortion rights. It's a restriction on what American-funded clinics in foreign countries can say/do with respect to abortion if they want to continue to receive funding.nausearockpig wrote:Jesus fucking christ.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/d ... 8540990e96
Maybe someone can clarify what gives anyone else the right to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body..... fucking hell....
That is, of course, clearly reprehensible, and woman are going to die as a result, but I think it's a sin of a different order of magnitude than, say, actively promoting anti-abortion views in these countries overtly, or trying to overturn Roe v. Wade or something.
It's easy to understand how libertarian-minded social conservatives can rationalize this: they will say it's about funding, not about telling anyone what they can and can't do. Of course, they're intentionally obfuscating the role of funding in all of this. But it's possible to play their game. Take their money and work around their legislation.
Btw, I think (though I might be mistaken about this) it's legislation that G.W. Bush had already passed, but which was repealed under Obama.
Passed by Reagan, repealed by Clinton, reinstated by Bush, repealed by Obama, reinstated again by Trump...
Because of this history, they have compiled some pretty thorough surveys of the effect of its enforcement ... lotta dead women, a lot more abortions...
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While Chicago is in bad shape, the very suggestion of martial law in the city is going to make people's heads explode.