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Ghosts of Selma

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:29 am
by SR
This quote jumped out at me from this article on the anniversary of the Selma march.....

"The irony is that, in our eagerness to commemorate civil rights heroes and past demonstrations, we prove that black lives matter more retrospectively than they do in the present".

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/s ... ?ocid=iehp

Re: Ghosts of Selma

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:23 am
by kv
:banghead:

Re: Ghosts of Selma

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:03 am
by SR
What does that mean?

Re: Ghosts of Selma

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:47 am
by kv
it means i think that quote is a load of shit...and don't act like you didn't know what i meant by the emoticon alone

Re: Ghosts of Selma

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:05 pm
by SR
I don't know why I'm responding but I'm not acting like anything.

:banghead: could mean "another thread on racism in Mercia?"

Or

:banghead: "another black teen shot dead by a white cop yesterday"

Or

:banghead: "really? It's been half a century since Selma" Americans are fucked"

I could go on, but hey.

Re: Ghosts of Selma

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:41 am
by Hype
It takes two to convey meaning.

Anyway, I think KV's cynicism about the cynicism of the quotation is at least partially correct: it doesn't follow from a desire to remember members of groups who engaged in past events, be they tragic or memorable or great or whatever, that we thereby devote less attention or significance or meaning or value to members of similar groups in the present. It might be true that we (i.e., North Americans) do, as a matter of fact, collectively, not devote enough time and energy to taking seriously the moral burdens of injustices against black citizens of the United States and Canada (to a far lesser degree) today, in spite of perhaps increased attention toward the victories and tragedies of the past. But the claim you quoted, SR, suggests, for example, that the Holocaust Rememberance Days (usually) of the 27th of January imply less attention to rising rates of antisemitism. The logical/causal connection ("we prove") is difficult to see at best, vacuous at worst.

Re: Ghosts of Selma

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:30 pm
by mockbee
To the point of past injustices still in effect today.

(not trying to incite some sort of debate regarding above points, just thought this was a proper recent thread for this video)


I found this absolutely hilarious and sad.