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Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:29 am
by Larry B.
Romeo wrote:Artemis wrote:For a country that seems to be so religious,I find it odd that Good Friday isn't a statutory holiday in the US.
Easter is the holiest of the Christian holidays.
But then I have to take a personal day if I wish to partake in Yom Kippur which is a high holy day.
Personally I don't even think Christmas should be a Federal Holiday. You want to celebrate?? Take a personal day like I have to on Yom Kippur.
That's what I'd be all for. Give workers 7 extra personal days for their religious festivities or whatever they want. In Chile, Good Friday and Good Saturday are official holidays; however, I took Friday just like any other day.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:52 pm
by Jasper
Romeo wrote:Artemis wrote:For a country that seems to be so religious,I find it odd that Good Friday isn't a statutory holiday in the US.
Easter is the holiest of the Christian holidays.
But then I have to take a personal day if I wish to partake in Yom Kippur which is a high holy day.
Personally I don't even think Christmas should be a Federal Holiday. You want to celebrate?? Take a personal day like I have to on Yom Kippur.
Get the fuck away from my pagan traditions.
Most everybody gets a whole buncha time off, and they like it. You can't organize school some other way. You can't make up for the deficits of workers at certain places in other ways. This shit works and we don't need to fuck it up. We don't need to further splinter the country out of some misguided political correctness. People need a fucking break in the winter, that's why various cultures all over the world have variations on the solstice deal. That's why we call it winter break. You know how fucking quiet it gets on
Christmas Saturnalia night? It's beautiful. When I was a kid I wanted to go skiing and shit with my little Jewish friends - you don't need to have everybody going off at different times. Besides, it saves on electricity and heat and janitorial staff in public schools and a lot of other places. As a non-religious person, I've gotta say, gtfo with that bullshit.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:02 pm
by Larry B.
Larry B. wrote:Adurentibus Spina wrote:Cool, Larry. Weinberg won the Nobel Prize years ago. Dude's really smart. At one point he talks about the hope physicists have that there might be a better alternative to the Copenhagen interpretation of QM that I think is really interesting.
The other parts of "The Atheism Tapes" are worth watching too.
I found all parts in Demonoid. This should be a very good self-help exercise. Thanks again.
Just saw episodes 1 and 2. Some very good stuff. I loved the unicorn comparison.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:09 pm
by Hype
Larry B. wrote:Larry B. wrote:Adurentibus Spina wrote:Cool, Larry. Weinberg won the Nobel Prize years ago. Dude's really smart. At one point he talks about the hope physicists have that there might be a better alternative to the Copenhagen interpretation of QM that I think is really interesting.
The other parts of "The Atheism Tapes" are worth watching too.
I found all parts in Demonoid. This should be a very good self-help exercise. Thanks again.
Just saw episodes 1 and 2. Some very good stuff. I loved the unicorn comparison.
Was that Colin McGinn? I could probably meet him, if I wanted to... I think he's wrong about a lot of stuff.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:44 am
by Larry B.
Adurentibus Spina wrote:Larry B. wrote:Larry B. wrote:Adurentibus Spina wrote:Cool, Larry. Weinberg won the Nobel Prize years ago. Dude's really smart. At one point he talks about the hope physicists have that there might be a better alternative to the Copenhagen interpretation of QM that I think is really interesting.
The other parts of "The Atheism Tapes" are worth watching too.
I found all parts in Demonoid. This should be a very good self-help exercise. Thanks again.
Just saw episodes 1 and 2. Some very good stuff. I loved the unicorn comparison.
Was that Colin McGinn? I could probably meet him, if I wanted to... I think he's wrong about a lot of stuff.
Yes, Colin McGinn. What I didn't like about him was that he seemed to be one of those people who come across as smart only because he knows what a lot of people said about something. To me, that's almost worthless in a philosopher. In a philosophy teacher, it's awesome! But in a philosopher it's just 33% of the job. You gotta put some new stuff, new insights, new perspectives. In my opinion, anyway.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:14 am
by Hype
He's mostly known for being a "New Mysterian", because he's argued that we can't solve the mind-body problem.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:08 am
by chaos
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... um=twitter
Study: Less Religious Are More Motivated By Compassion Than Highly Religious
Are religious people more moved by compassion than those who described themselves as less religious or non-religious?
A group of scientists at the University of California, Berkeley set out to answer that question and what they found would surprise some: In three experiments, the social scientists found that the less religious were more generous when presented with situations that stimulated their compassion, which the scientists defined as "an emotion felt when people see the suffering of others which then motivates them to help, often at a personal risk or cost."
Here's how Berkeley sums up the study in its press release:
"The results challenge a widespread assumption that acts of generosity and charity are largely driven by feelings of empathy and compassion, researchers said. In the study, the link between compassion and generosity was found to be stronger for those who identified as being non-religious or less religious.
"'Overall, we find that for less religious people, the strength of their emotional connection to another person is critical to whether they will help that person or not,' said UC Berkeley social psychologist Robb Willer, a co-author of the study. 'The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns.'"
So how did scientists test this? First they looked at survey of 1,300 Americans. That showed that the non-religious were more motivated by emotion to be generous.
Next, they tested it in the lab. In one experiment Americans were shown a neutral video and a "heartrending one." The participants were given "lab money," which they could donate after they watched each video.
"The least religious participants appeared to be motivated by the emotionally charged video to give more of their money to a stranger," the scientists found.
In another study participants were told that a participant before them had given a portion of their reward to them. The participant, scientists told them, were free to reward the person before them by giving them back a portion of the money, which had now doubled.
Those who reported feeling more compassionate and less religious, were also more generous in this experiment.
The findings are published in the latest edition of the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:41 am
by Hype
That makes sense. Fervent Christianity and a libertarian (small-l) conception of personal identity seem to go together. Scripturally, though Jesus said stuff like "Love your neighbour." He really left it up to the individual to what degree to do so. And anyway, it's up to the individual to personally accept Jesus, right? So we don't need to be compassionate if they can get it themselves.
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:02 pm
by Bandit72
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:33 pm
by Hype
Is he even still around? Is that link from 10 years ago?
Re: Gallup Poll: U.S. States by Religiosity
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:40 pm
by Bandit72
Yeh, I was watching the God Delusion earlier and it made me think of this thread. 2006 it was made I think.